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The Beatles: All These Years by Mark Lewisohn. Tune In - What do you think? (Spoilers alert!)
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Another excerpt - this one about Paul and John.

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23 September 2013
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Another excerpt:

As part of our exclusive coverage of Mark Lewisohn's new Beatles biography, the author shares an extract about how the Beatles, the Beach Boys, the Rolling Stones and Bob Dylan kicked off the Sixties on the same day, 5 October 1962.

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25 September 2013
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I don't know if photos count as a spoiler, but better safe than sorry.  The Mirror posted a photo from the book of John and Paul together in 1961.

Hopefully this will put an end the "OMG, Paul never wore glasses!" debate.

Edit: I think it originally came from The Mail, as their article comes with a comment from Lewisohn.

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25 September 2013
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TBH when I saw the Telegraph extracts, and saw the comments below, I could see why people might be underwhelmed. The story is so familiar it's not surprising that some people feel jaded about the prospect of yet another Beatles biog, and the scale and detail don't really come across in the extracts.

Mja asked:

I have one question, the one that most have had since Lewisohn's first comment about it, and would ask you to post your reply in the "spoilers" thread if you respond, could you give a precis of how they got signed to EMI?

OK. Big caveat here. I haven't read that far, but have flicked ahead. I may have missed some important facts. Here's a briefish version of what I understand (and bear in mind it's spread out over 50+ pages). I'm not sure if spoiler tags are really needed here, but...

After the Decca audition Brian Epstein took the recordings to various people to try to drum up interest. Among the people who heard it was Sid Colman, who ran EMI's publishers Ardmore & Beechwood. They wanted to get their hands on Like Dreamers Do as they thought it had hit potential.

For whatever reason the most convenient/efficient way was to put The Beatles under a standard EMI contract, with terrible terms, then the label would own the song(s), have options on future compositions, and could release The Beatles' records if anything took off (frankly, nobody had high hopes for them).

Meanwhile, George Martin had fallen out of favour with EMI's top brass. He'd tried to renegotiate his contract with better terms, had his bluff called and was forced to back down and sign a three-year contract on the old terms. He would have been sacked for his chutzpah if his records hadn't been so commercially successful. Martin was also conducting an extra-martital affair with his assistant (later wife) Judy, which definitely wasn't approved of. So EMI made him sign and produce The Beatles. He was actually handed them as punishment.

 

Now, that may not be the definitive story, but it's a rough precis based on a first flick-through.

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There is a sense of the facts finally being arranged in the right way. As Mark says, it really has been known all along.

I don't know if the book disproves it but the story goes that when Larry Parnes offered to sign them on condition that they drop Stu, Lennon refused outright. That says something, about Lennon's status as leader and the fact that Paul and George went along with it (given that Paul and Stu didn't get on, and Paul wanted to be a star so badly). Larry Parnes was probably the most influential British pop manager of the time. They were walking away from what would have been regarded as a golden opportunity.

But I'm fully prepared for Joe to say that, actually, it didn't happen like that! (I know some versions of the story have Parnes saying he liked the boys at the front, it was Tommy Moore who was the problem).

The George Martin/recording contract revelation is fascinating. All these years (see what I did there?), he's maintained that he heard them, thought they sounded interesting, and that their charm won the day. But I suppose it's easier than saying, "I'd nearly been fired for asking for a raise, I was sleeping with my secretary, and only became their producer under sufferance as a punishment by my bosses"! If McCartney didn't know any of this, I wonder what he'll say now!

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