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May Pang: Loving John
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Is this book worth reading?  Furthermore, is it worth paying 25 to 30 dollars for?  I've seen it on ebay occasionally for less, but haven't been able to get a copy (nor have I been actively seeking one).

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It's been on my 'read list' for ages now, but I never seem to find the right moment to actually buy it and read it. I've always had other ones that I've wanted to read more, so far.

The reviews I've read have been mostly positive, so I definitely think it's worth a read.

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13 February 2014
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Worth a read if you're a serious fan, but not a must read by any stretch. Like all books written by people who knew John personally, you have to be ever mindful of the point of view. Some of May's interpretations of events seem a bit self-serving to me, but I have no doubt that she loved John very much.

13 February 2014
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If you want to browse the book before committing to buy it, use DPL's interlibrary loan service.

It looks like their Illiad system is down at the moment (ours was down last week too - the company did something funky with some setting and knocked their customers for a loop). But, the link gives you other ways to contact them.

The ILL staff will be impressed (they should be) if you give them this number : the OCLC accession number is 9645065.

That OCLC number works for both the hardback and paperback copies of the book.

The hardback ISBN is 9780446379175.

The paperback ISBN is 9780446379168.

On a side note, the head position for DPL ILL was open when I graduated from library school. But, it required 5 years of professional work in ILL. I only had a one semester practicum under my belt at that time.

 

 

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Ahhh Girl said
If you want to browse the book before committing to buy it, use DPL's interlibrary loan service.

It looks like their Illiad system is down at the moment (ours was down last week too - the company did something funky with some setting and knocked their customers for a loop). But, the link gives you other ways to contact them.

The ILL staff will be impressed (they should be) if you give them this number : the OCLC accession number is 9645065.

That OCLC number works for both the hardback and paperback copies of the book.

The hardback ISBN is 9780446379175.

The paperback ISBN is 9780446379168.

On a side note, the head position for DPL ILL was open when I graduated from library school. But, it required 5 years of professional work in ILL. I only had a one semester practicum under my belt at that time.

 

 

Thanks for the information!

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Ahhh Girl said
If you want to browse the book before committing to buy it, use DPL's interlibrary loan service.

It looks like their Illiad system is down at the moment (ours was down last week too - the company did something funky with some setting and knocked their customers for a loop). But, the link gives you other ways to contact them.

The ILL staff will be impressed (they should be) if you give them this number : the OCLC accession number is 9645065.

That OCLC number works for both the hardback and paperback copies of the book.

The hardback ISBN is 9780446379175.

The paperback ISBN is 9780446379168.

On a side note, the head position for DPL ILL was open when I graduated from library school. But, it required 5 years of professional work in ILL. I only had a one semester practicum under my belt at that time.

 

 

Thanks for the information!

If you do borrow a copy, remember to come back here and post a thought or two about the book. Your musings on all things John are so unique and interesting.

 

13 February 2014
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Ahhh Girl said

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Ahhh Girl said
If you want to browse the book before committing to buy it, use DPL's interlibrary loan service.

It looks like their Illiad system is down at the moment (ours was down last week too - the company did something funky with some setting and knocked their customers for a loop). But, the link gives you other ways to contact them.

The ILL staff will be impressed (they should be) if you give them this number : the OCLC accession number is 9645065.

That OCLC number works for both the hardback and paperback copies of the book.

The hardback ISBN is 9780446379175.

The paperback ISBN is 9780446379168.

On a side note, the head position for DPL ILL was open when I graduated from library school. But, it required 5 years of professional work in ILL. I only had a one semester practicum under my belt at that time.

 

 

Thanks for the information!

If you do borrow a copy, remember to come back here and post a thought or two about the book. Your musings on all things John are so unique and interesting.

 

Thanks. Learning about John challenges and enlightens me, and helps me to see certain aspects of myself, good and bad. a-hard-days-night-john-6

"This Beatles talk bores me to death." --John Lennon

13 February 2014
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No need to pay. You can find it online by searching for the title and adding pdf and downloading that. I've found this works for quite a few out-of-print books.

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13 February 2014
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Cool beans, parlance! Now, Ex Tex has two options. I'll keep your hint in mind. Thanks!

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parlance said
No need to pay. You can find it online by searching for the title and adding pdf and downloading that. I've found this works for quite a few out-of-print books.

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Great!

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25 April 2014
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I actually wasn't able to find it online. But I won a hardback copy with slipcover on eBay for 16 dollars, which is good because I've seen paperbacks in pretty questionable condition go for much more. The previous owner's name is written in it, but I don't care so much in this case because the book is scarce. It will be a while before I get to it. I'm reading about Elvis.

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25 April 2014
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I had no idea it was selling for so much second-hand. I bought a paperback copy in fairly good condition a couple of years ago but I probably paid no more than £5/$8 for it.

Oddly, I just did a Google search for [may pang loving john pdf] and stumbled upon this, which is a pdf of the interview I did with May in 2011, with Beatles Bible logo, comments and everything. Very strange to see it like that. I assume someone converted it for their own use, and they leave everything up on the site.

The pdf only grabbed page one of the interview. This is from page two:

Your book Loving John has been long out of print. I heard you’re working on a revised edition. Can you say any more about that?

I had a lot of issues with that book. My intention was to write a balanced and accurate account of our time together. The publisher edited the book almost in half, keeping the more controversial stories while disregarding the good, productive side. They didn’t think it would sell. Obviously, I wasn’t going to white-wash the story and I didn’t. But I’d like to restore some of the context. There was plenty of good.

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25 April 2014
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I didn't know it was that scarce, either. There's been an original hardback copy (without dust cover) at my nearby library ever since I started frequenting it a coupla years ago, but I've never been terribly interested in checking it out.

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I'm reading about Elvis.

The Peter Guralnick biographies?

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I had no idea it was selling for so much second-hand. I bought a paperback copy in fairly good condition a couple of years ago but I probably paid no more than £5/$8 for it.

Oddly, I just did a Google search for [may pang loving john pdf] and stumbled upon this, which is a pdf of the interview I did with May in 2011, with Beatles Bible logo, comments and everything. Very strange to see it like that. I assume someone converted it for their own use, and they leave everything up on the site.

The pdf only grabbed page one of the interview. This is from page two:

Your book Loving John has been long out of print. I heard you’re working on a revised edition. Can you say any more about that?

I had a lot of issues with that book. My intention was to write a balanced and accurate account of our time together. The publisher edited the book almost in half, keeping the more controversial stories while disregarding the good, productive side. They didn’t think it would sell. Obviously, I wasn’t going to white-wash the story and I didn’t. But I’d like to restore some of the context. There was plenty of good.

That's very interesting. I'll keep in mind when I read the book that much of the positive context has been removed.

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Von Bontee said

I didn't know it was that scarce, either. There's been an original hardback copy (without dust cover) at my nearby library ever since I started frequenting it a coupla years ago, but I've never been terribly interested in checking it out.

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I'm reading about Elvis.

The Peter Guralnick biographies?

Yes, I'm reading the first one right now. Before this, I read The Seeker King: A Spiritual Biography, which I actually enjoyed more, even though it had less detail. The Guralnick book is heavy on detail and light on substance, but I have a feeling I may enjoy the next one more.

I am also planning to read If I Can Dream by Larry Gellar and Elvis After Life: Unusual Psychic Experiences Surrounding the Death of a Superstar by Dr. Raymond A. Moody.

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25 April 2014
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@Von Bontee , if I were you I would go check that book out if no one else has in the past few years. Sometimes a library will weed unused books from the collection.

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Oh, and what makes you think you know libraries? :)

Actually you're rght, that is a good idea - me checking it out before it's gotten rid of. (On the other hand, I've bought many a book over the years at those library sales that they have periodically: Who's to say I won't find them selling it for like fifty cents someday? That'd be a nice score!

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Don't let any of your librarians see how much the book is selling for on ebay. Hopefully they won't read this thread. a-hard-days-night-george-10

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I hope someday to find some out-of-print Beatles book that I'd have to pay £40+ online in a 2nd hand book shop for about €2-€5- That day has not come yet but one can still dream (I did find a brilliant mini-book version of James Joyce's famous works which are worth about €300+ if I sold them, I paid €20 for them :P They are so beautiful though that I don't think I could part with them)

I also have a collection of anti-Irish articles that were published by an English newspaper in the the mid-late 1800s, worth a fair penny as well if I ever need money. Very interesting to read the mind-set of the press during Ireland's famine and the years after it

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I was lucky enough/am old enough to have been lucky enough to have bought it when it came out. I understand May's view that it didn't end up being the book she wrote, and after all these years - and the knowledge that Beatles-related sells - it's strange that some sort of revised reprint closer to her original version hasn't been made available yet (in this day and age she could easily self-publish as an e-book).

As a memoir of knowing John, I always found it a touching portrayal - especially since discovering (thanks @Joe) that the publisher made it darker than she wrote it.

Oh, and @AppleScruffJunior, there was no famine...

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