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John: Cynthia Lennon
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Essential information...Available as an audiobook on YouTube.

 

The real deal.

The real story.

 

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I just listened to Cynthia's reading of the audiobook last week while vacationing in Mexico.

 

My opinion (from more than just this book) is that Cynthia was a positive and extremely tolerant force in John's life.  Sadly, John was very self-destructive and insecure and gravitated towards Yoko during his first round of heavy drug use.  She provided the strict Mothering that John craved from Julia and Mimi.

 

Decades later, we can only speculate the 'what-ifs'.  We have the music we have, and maybe after we die we can explore the alternate timelines and the music that would have been.

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John Lennon was always very big on destroying myths...He seemed to take special delight in bad mouthing anything positive the Beatles did especially toward the end.

 

So, in this case it is only justice that myths about him are laid to rest, especially for those that seem to think he was some kind of saint or 'higher spiritual being'...It simply wasn't true.

However, this doesn't mean that he didn't create great music, especially with Paul and the Beatles...It's just that he was merely a human being with many flaws.

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fabfouremily said

She wrote 'A twist of Lennon' at a time when John wasn´t seeing much of Julian - if at all, as he had just left for the States - and she felt resentment towards him. And yes, she was desperate for the money.

Maybe her memory was better then, but I believe she feels a lot less bitterness now and therefore, can talk about her feelings in an honest way, without exagerrating or anything like that. She´s ready to talk about John and their relationship now, it was a long time ago, after all. Then, I don´t think she was, she still loved him and couldn´t understand why he was behaving the way he did with her, Julian, and almost everyone else he had been so close to before, well.....Yoko.

You can understand her bitterness with all she went through...After Julian was born, John told a member of the media that "Julian was born out of a whiskey bottle on a Saturday night."...Of course, this was just John being an a**hole as he was wont to do, but words like this and the conditions she and Julian had to live in, with the ice cold Aunt Mimi and later when they lived in a 6 floor walkup in London, will make one bitter.

But certainly, time is a healing factor.

 

One must understand that John & Cynthia certainly had many wonderful and tender moments, and that it must have warped John's personality dealing with the pressure cooker of the Beatles, and also taking into account what happened with his own mom & dad.

 

Ringo once commented that to get the true story of the Beatles relationships, one would have to talk to Jane Asher, and I believe he mentioned Cynthia, too.

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frankdialogue, by 'Beatles relationships', do you mean John - Cyn, Paul - Jane etc or between the boys themselves?

 

I meant the individual Beatles relationships with women.

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I'm about halfway through this now and am enjoying it. Although I'm a big fan of John Lennon the musician (and certain aspects of John Lennon the man), I'm not a devotee like so many are...I know he's flawed and was far from a perfect person, but I've always found him interesting. So far it's a very informative book, both for the new bits of info that shed him in a more positive light, as well as those that reveal his very ugly, dark side.

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DrBeatle said
I'm about halfway through this now and am enjoying it. Although I'm a big fan of
John Lennon the musician (and certain aspects of John Lennon the man), I'm not a devotee like so many are...I know he's flawed and was far from a perfect person, but I've always found him interesting. So far it's a very informative book, both for the new bits of info that shed him in a more positive light, as well as those that reveal his very ugly, dark side.

I agree with your assessment. I borrowed it from the library about a month and a half ago and I hope to own a copy someday. Cynthia's an evocative writer.

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DrBeatle said
I'm about halfway through this now and am enjoying it. Although I'm a big fan of
John Lennon the musician (and certain aspects of John Lennon the man), I'm not a devotee like so many are...I know he's flawed and was far from a perfect person, but I've always found him interesting. So far it's a very informative book, both for the new bits of info that shed him in a more positive light, as well as those that reveal his very ugly, dark side.

 

 

I agree. I've been listening to the audio book on youtube and down in the description box said its advise for Lennon fan's not to listen. As much as I love The Beatles and think they were brilliant, I know they were flawed just like everyone else, so its nice to hear her side.

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