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Jude Southerland Kessler: Lennon Biography Series
28 January 2010
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Note: Three threads merged on 3rd July 2014 by meanmistermustard. The first thread consisted of posts 1 -> 33 and 39 -> 41; the second posts 34 -> 38; the third posts 42 -> 52.

 

I ordered Shoulda Been There by Jude Southerland Kessler on Monday. It is apparently a biography of John Lennon (what, did you expect someone else?) and is written as a third person novel. It's the first of a five part series. You can read an excerpt here. It received rave reviews on Amazon and she spent 15+ years doing research, so it should be good. I hope. At worst, I'm stuck with $23 kindling.

Has any else read this book or even heard about it?

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28 January 2010
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I'd heard of it, but there are too many other books I'd like to buy for me to bother with historical fiction about The Beatles. The third-person artistic licence annoys me a little – I don't really see the value in it. I'd rather read a straight biog.

I'm not sure why that is, as I enjoyed Backbeat, Nowhere Boy and The Hours And The Times – maybe fictionalised accounts just work better on screen than on the page. That extract certainly didn't entice me to read any more.

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29 January 2010
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Hmm. So I may have just bought a paper paper weight. To be honest, I haven't read a lot of bios. The other books I've purchased are interesting but they can read a bit like textbooks, so I thought this might be a nice change. We'll see.

So you would reccommend Backbeat?

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29 January 2010
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Backbeat is a brilliant film. Ian Hart who plays John Lennon does a fantastic job and i felt he captured who John was or what i thought John was like. Stephen Dorff does a good scouse accent but he was luckier because we didn't really have a perception of what Stu was like, but all of the cast were really good, no annoying portrayals as in other flims. It had great location work in Liverpool too, not just somewhere else pretending to be Liverpool. I'd highly recommend you get a copy of this film. Sorry to butt in your conversation by the way

I've just read the excerpt, i don't know. It's hard doing something like that because the author has got to catch the humour of the individuals without knowing them. Ray Coleman did that with his John Lennon books and i found they made out everthing John ssid was funny which got a bit irritating after a few chapters

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29 January 2010
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I think that's what I'm most worried about – that they'll be caricatures.  She claims that she did the research, so the 'history' should be alright…

I'll should probably add Backbeat to my NetFlix then.

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I did like Backbeat, but I've heard a few people say it was a bit duff. Maybe that's the way they remember it – it came out around the grunge era, and a lot of the people I know who saw it were more interested in swooning over Stephen Dorff than enjoying The Beatles' story. If you're a Beatles fan you really should see it though.

I mentioned another film before, The Hours And The Times, which came out before Backbeat but also starred Ian Hart as Lennon. It's not often seen, but is a dramatisation of Lennon's Barcelona holiday with Brian Epstein. I've only seen it once, many years from now, but I'd love to see it again.

Beatles films forum, anyone?

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29 January 2010
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Yes please! :D

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Here you go then! http://www.beatlesbible.com/fo…..elevision/

It's empty right now, but please go ahead if you want to start some threads.

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29 January 2010
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Nice. I should probably watch the movies first beofre I start opining on them, eh?

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Joe said:

Here you go then! http://www.beatlesbible.com/fo…..elevision/

It's empty right now, but please go ahead if you want to start some threads.


I've started on it Wink

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Joe said:

I'd heard of it, but there are too many other books I'd like to buy for me to bother with historical fiction about The Beatles. The third-person artistic licence annoys me a little – I don't really see the value in it. I'd rather read a straight biog.


My thoughts too. I did do a bit of research into buying them once but if I recall, I hit the same brick wall as with other books; it was too expensive to buy and get shipped from the US Frown

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30 January 2010
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The site said you could buy it in some bookstore in Liverpool. But a day trip there could be expensive too. ;)

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31 January 2010
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skye said:The site said you could buy it in some bookstore in Liverpool. But a day trip there could be expensive too. ;)


That's interesting. Haven't been to Liverpool for a few years.  Last time was to go and see John's and Paul's homes which are now owned by the National Trust.  Now that was a truly amazing experience.

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The book finally arrived in the mail and I'd call it addictive. I've read up to him reaching age seven. It starts with his birth (as good a place as any) and didn't have Mimi dodging Nazi bombs to visit her nephew; so far so factual.

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3 February 2010
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skye said:The book finally arrived in the mail and I'd call it addictive. I've read up to him reaching age seven. It starts with his birth (as good a place as any) and didn't have Mimi dodging Nazi bombs to visit her nephew; so far so factual.


Give it time! Is it just the one volume?

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3 February 2010
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She's planning five if you can believe it. The second should come out this year. So if this one is good I have plenty to look forward to.

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So what's the time line for this first book then? Birth until ????????

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4 February 2010
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11 December 1961. Ugh. He only has 19 years left.

Anyway, he's 16 now and thinking about starting a skiffle group.

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skye said:

11 December 1961. Ugh. He only has 19 years left.

Anyway, he's 16 now and thinking about starting a skiffle group.


Yeah that's kind of scary……..stopped being a Beatle at 30; dead at 40. His life was kind of split into quarters…….

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That's something I always find astonishing about The Beatles – that they did it all so young. George Harrison was 23 (23!) when he recorded Sgt Pepper, McCartney was only 27 when the Abbey Road medley was completed, and Lennon was 29 when he did the Primal Scream album and released Cold Turkey. There was some remarkable maturity on show.

I know musicians normally hit a creative peak in their 20s, but The Beatles packed so much in and split when they were still very young. No wonder they individually had quite a bit of trouble in the 70s, creatively or personally – there must have been a sense of not knowing where to go from the top, or trying to cope with a slower pace of life.

When I was younger I always saw Lennon as being quite old when he died at 40, but as I get closer (I'm 33 at the moment) I realise he really wasn't.

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