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4.52am
10 February 2013
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RE: the alleged brick incident, here's Doggett's passage about it (which to me sounds much more reasonable and likely:
There have been lurid accounts of what happened next–of Lennon, Harrison and Starkey storming out of the court, brushing past reporters and driving immediately to McCartney’s house, where Lennon allegedly took two bricks from his car and threw them through the nearest window. Then they are supposed to have returned to Apple to face the press. But none of the Beatles, victor or loser, was in court that day; there was no press conference; and the bricks remain an urban myth. Challenged on a similar tale, McCartney said, ‘I recently read that I was supposed to have given John a painting, and he was supposed to have come around to my house and put his foot through it. I never did give John a painting, and if I did he never put his foot through it.’ Even in the more reserved media climate of 1971 it seems unlikely that three of the Beatles could have vandalised the home of the fourth without a hint of the incident reaching the press.
Doggett, Peter (2010-05-21). You Never Give Me Your Money: The Beatles After the Breakup (pp. 163-164). HarperCollins e-books. Kindle Edition.
6.32am
8 November 2012
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^^ Thanks for that.
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9.23am
21 November 2012
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Never heard of those stories, but I must say they both are quite amusing.
However, Doggett's bit about it does sound more plausible. How exactly do 3 Beatles go unnoticed to Paul's house in a WHITE Rolls Royce, which is not exactly a car you see often and vandalise his home?
12.36pm
29 November 2012
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Doggett's book is just so fantastic, not only for the info in it, but for the myths it busts (like those above). I can't recommend it enough.
4.50pm
1 November 2012
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Linde said
Never heard of those stories, but I must say they both are quite amusing.However, Doggett's bit about it does sound more plausible. How exactly do 3 Beatles go unnoticed to Paul's house in a WHITE Rolls Royce, which is not exactly a car you see often and vandalise his home?
By crashing into a yellow Rolls Royce with 3 Monkees in it halfway there, then getting involved in a car chase with Robert Wagner and David Niven in gorilla costumes, and Peter Sellers in a full suit of armor:
11.00pm
21 November 2012
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DrBeatle said
Doggett's book is just so fantastic, not only for the info in it, but for the myths it busts (like those above). I can't recommend it enough.
Waaarghhh my library doesn't have it and none of the bookstores around have it.
12.10pm
29 November 2012
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Linde said
DrBeatle said
Doggett's book is just so fantastic, not only for the info in it, but for the myths it busts (like those above). I can't recommend it enough.Waaarghhh my library doesn't have it and none of the bookstores around have it.
Booo! Do you have an iPhone or iPad? It's on iBooks…I couldn't wait to get the store to buy it (which I eventually did) so I downloaded it to my iPad, too 
2.24pm
8 November 2012
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Maybe this should go into Beatley Moments, but since it's related… I had to shoot a portrait assignment for school, so I had my model pose with the library copy of Doggett's book. While I was setting up my camera, he commented that it looked like a good book, and I told him it's a great book, so we chatted about the band and the breakup during the shoot.
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7.22pm
21 November 2012
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DrBeatle said
Linde said
DrBeatle said
Doggett's book is just so fantastic, not only for the info in it, but for the myths it busts (like those above). I can't recommend it enough.Waaarghhh my library doesn't have it and none of the bookstores around have it.
Booo! Do you have an iPhone or iPad? It's on iBooks…I couldn't wait to get the store to buy it (which I eventually did) so I downloaded it to my iPad, too
Do I look like I'm rich enough to have an iPhone or iPad?
Nahh I just have a very crappy Samsung Galaxy Mini. I think I'll just order it online then. Some day. Although…my birthday is pretty soon…
6.16am
17 January 2013
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DrBeatle said
nowhereland said
Not exactly a Beatles book, but in my chorus class one of the music history textbooks says Let it Be was written by John for his own mother… Needless to say I got a red pen and fixed it.
That's as bad as a Facebook wallpaper I saw the other day that someone made that had a sillhouette of the Beatles and the quote underneath read "And in the end the love you take is equal to the love you make" – Lennon
I set that straight QUICKLY!
Off topic now, but I was reading this thread and wondered if you'd seen this one:
lol
"..Turn off your mind relax and float down stream... It is not dying.."
5.40pm
29 November 2012
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Haha, love it!
8.14pm
10 August 2011
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Now THAT's what I call an error…
(Would be even better if it said, "…. that's George Harrison")
5.41am
12 January 2013
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In a book instead of P.S I Love You it had I Love You and it took me a while to figure out what the heck it was.
The Incedibly True Story THat Never Ends. By Sam.
Best Friend: WHat are you listening to
Me: The Beatles
Best Friend: Go Figure
2.54am
10 August 2011
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Ever wonder how a book can have errors?
I can speak from personal experience:
- Using a reference that turns out to be flawed. Example: I found a number of texts indicating that Lennon and McCartney wrote "I Wanna Be Your Man" right in front of Jagger and Richards before handing the song over to them. That's probably not correct.
- Relying on your memory for things that you're sure of. Example: I have "Long Tall Sally" as being on the "Please Please Me" album, which is not correct. This most likely comes from the confusion of British and American releases. I fact checked everything I wasn't sure of, but not the things I was "sure of." (Thanks mja6758 for picking that up).
- Computer errors. When you cut and paste, you can inadvertently cut something extra without realizing it and/or accidentally paste something in the wrong spot. Example: I have the Beatles first hearing the Stones in October '62. Clearly wrong. None of my sources would have suggested that. (Thanks again, mja)
- Some errors may not be errors. You'd think someone who was there would have the final say, but people's memories are flawed.
- Proofreaders tend to read for syntax and spelling, not factual content. Most proofreaders aren't super experts in the topic being written about. That's why most of you here would be good proofreaders (for content) on a Beatles book!
4.04pm
31 March 2008
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Is the Jagger-Richards story not correct? I've heard it so many times I thought it was true. Lennon definitely said it happened, and I'm sure I read Jagger say the same in an interview. http://www.beatlesbible.com/so…..-your-man/
You're right about the proofreading thing. My mum used to be a proofreader/copy editor and used to be very diligent about song titles etc. She used to send me away to check up Kinks song titles and stuff like that, to make sure they were spelt correctly. However, many publishers don't bother. I was reading Dan Richter's book on John and Yoko earlier today, and he writes about The Plastic Ono Band album (that The bugs me), and Allen Klein's company ABKO. Tiny errors but easy to spot if you know the subject.
The beauty of writing on the web is that you can correct stuff, but it's a lot harder with a proper book. Every week someone points out a typo or a factual error in one of my articles. I don't think there are loads on this site, but occasionally a really daft error slips through that must have snuck in while I was distracted. A couple of times I've written about an event and put a completely different month or year on it. People's reactions can be funny though – some people act as though you've insulted their mother and blown up their pet dog, when all you've done is misspelt Aspinall or Rishikesh.
7.47pm
10 August 2011
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Joe said, "Is the Jagger-Richards story not correct? I've heard it so many times I thought it was true. Lennon definitely said it happened, and I'm sure I read Jagger say the same in an interview. http://www.beatlesbible.com/so…..-your-man/"
The way it's described on this site is indeed closer to what I've recently heard: the song was written by Lennon-McC – and then handed over to the Stones. Another version has Lennon McC actually writing the song in front of Jagger-Richards.
Who knows. Maybe it was mostly written beforehand…
"The beauty of writing on the web is that you can correct stuff, but it's a lot harder with a proper book. Every week someone points out a typo or a factual error in one of my articles. I don't think there are loads on this site, but occasionally a really daft error slips through that must have snuck in while I was distracted. A couple of times I've written about an event and put a completely different month or year on it. People's reactions can be funny though – some people act as though you've insulted their mother and blown up their pet dog"
For sure!!!
The beauty of self-publishing is that you can make corrections as soon as mistakes are picked up. But yes, there is a tendency to think of an author as an idiot when there's a mistake. That's the power of a book – it has a stamp of authority, nearly Bible-like. So when a mistake is discovered, it's disconcerting to the reader to find out the author is not Perfect.
8.34pm
14 December 2009
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Seems to me that "I Wanna Be Your Man" was mostly written when handed over, but was given a bit of on-the-spot polish (like, an extra verse written, or something rearranged) in front of Jagger/Richards, while they waited. I think that's the way that story goes, if I'm remembering properly.
And as for that McCartney image labeled "John Lennon" upthread, I think that may be an intentional joke. There's this company that produces humourous T-shirts, and I've seen one with a head shot of Jimi Hendrix blandly labeled "Bob Marley". Kind of a trolling thing: Anybody who bothers to point out the error is the butt of the joke, for not realizing that such an obvious error could only be intentional. At least, that's the way I think it's supposed to work. (Or, it could simply be that the creators are, indeed, fucking morons!)
8.48pm
12 January 2013
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Another error I found is that it was showing examples of Paul pausing in sentences in songs and you showed Do You Want to Know a Secret and I yelled THATS A GEORGE SONG WRITTEN BY JOHN YOU STUPID BOOK WRITERS! My class will never look at me the same.
Yes, this is what kind of fan I am.
The Incedibly True Story THat Never Ends. By Sam.
Best Friend: WHat are you listening to
Me: The Beatles
Best Friend: Go Figure
9.27pm
18 March 2013
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Beatles in the Blood said
Another error I found is that it was showing examples of Paul pausing in sentences in songs and you showed Do You Want to Know a Secret and I yelled THATS A GEORGE SONG WRITTEN BY JOHN YOU STUPID BOOK WRITERS! My class will never look at me the same.Yes, this is what kind of fan I am.
Relating to "Do You Want To Know A Secret" that sleeve is just disturbing
What the heck is that ^^^^^^
Not so much in a book but I was watching a documentary yesterday on John and George and it was riddled in errors apparently, when The Quarrymen were first performing on stage Paul strolled by with his guitar and joined in with them on stage, The Beatles were in India when Brian died and John returned his MBE in 1973 not 1969….
9.30pm
8 November 2012
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AppleScruffJunior said
when The Quarrymen were first performing on stage Paul strolled by with his guitar and joined in with them on stage,
I've been trying to contain myself in the computer lab, but that image really did make me giggle.
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