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The Vinyl Thread
14 June 2011
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Till There Was You said:

 

Are there certain ways to keep your vinyl clean that I should know about? I do want to play it, and not just keep it boxed up, but I want to make sure that I keep it in good condition.

Not sure, but I want to know, because I bought a Tom Petty special edition vinyl, that I will sell in years, but I do want to listen to it. Any ideas?

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14 June 2011
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I usually go for first issues of vinyl. I like the older sound better than the remastered one. I like Stereo better than mono, too. I think that vinyl printed after the 80s (or just reissued ones) just sound different compared to the good old ones that I'm used to. I love the way that Revolver sounds on vinyl. That's why I want to keep it clean.

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22 July 2011
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The other day I had a discussion with someone who claimed that the original Beatles records from the 1960s will loose their value in a few years because the younger generations wants music that is not as old. I don't really believe that but what do you think?

22 July 2011
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The original vinyls will still be worth worth lots as the years go on, perhaps even increasing in value.

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22 July 2011
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The younger gen has not wanted vinyls in years.  I only use my record player however.a-hard-days-night-john-6  I wish they were cheaper however.  I want revolver (along with all the other UK releases, but revolver is my favorite), but the UK releases are expensive as hell, and the Capitol release doesnt have I'm only sleeping (my fav song off revolver.)  I currently have Abbey Road, Sgt peppers, Rubber Soul (its the capital release which doesnt have a few songs, so I dont count it) and the Beatles second album.

22 July 2011
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I'm sure the vinyl value is high. It's not like they produce these things all the time. 

My dad says he may get me some vinyls for my birthday, so I'll see about that. 

And I want music that is old!! a-hard-days-night-paul-11

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22 July 2011
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Renfield74 said:

The other day I had a discussion with someone who claimed that the original Beatles records from the 1960s will lose their value in a few years because the younger generations want music that is not as old.

Pshhh. I've developed a theory about those kinds of people. They:

1. Are stupid

2. Are ignorant

3. Just want to irritate Beatles fans

(I originally developed this theory after someone was pushing the "'Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds' = LSD" thing on me.) 

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22 July 2011
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MeanMrsMustard said:

Renfield74 said:

The other day I had a discussion with someone who claimed that the original Beatles records from the 1960s will lose their value in a few years because the younger generations want music that is not as old.

Pshhh. I've developed a theory about those kinds of people. They:

1. Are stupid

2. Are ignorant

3. Just want to irritate Beatles fans

(I originally developed this theory after someone was pushing the "'Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds' = LSD" thing on me.) 

^^ Good theory. it so happens as one of my dads super-religious friends wants my dad to stop me from listening beatles because "they said they were bigger than Jesus and might hurt pru's mind"a-hard-days-night-paul-3

And I was like screw that, i'd do it anyway. 

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22 July 2011
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MeanMrsMustard said:

Pshhh. I've developed a theory about those kinds of people. They:

1. Are stupid

2. Are ignorant

3. Just want to irritate Beatles fans

 Not to be mean, but, I don`t think that could be more wrong. The younger generation is getting away from even CD`s. So that`s neither stupid or ignorant. Wanting to irritate us? Not really. More just forgetting The Beatles typically buck trends.

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22 July 2011
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Dear Prudence said:

It so happens that one of my dad's super-religious friends wants my dad to stop me from listening to the Beatles because "they said they were bigger than Jesus and might hurt Pru's mind" 

I hate it when people make up stupid reasons for disliking the Beatles. My least favorite is definitely "they were junkies and hippies and they were high when they wrote their songs." Seriously? Go listen to anything before Rubber Soul, and you probably will find about three drug references. ("She's a Woman," "Day Tripper," and probably something sly that I wouldn't pick up.) Even their later material was mostly drug-free. (I'm thinking basically everything after the White Album. Again, I'm probably too innocent or whatever to pick up on drug references. Apparently someone thought "Hey Jude" was about heroin because of the line "let her under your skin." Honestly.) 

Why can't they just say that the music isn't their thing? And even then, the Beatles covered such a wide range of genres that you'd probably have to hate music in general to not find a Beatles song you like. 

Besides, there isn't really anything anti-religious in Beatles material. That came in John's solo work. a-hard-days-night-george-10 

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22 July 2011
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mr. Sun king coming together said:

MeanMrsMustard said:

Pshhh. I've developed a theory about those kinds of people. They:

1. Are stupid

2. Are ignorant

3. Just want to irritate Beatles fans

 Not to be mean, but I don't think that could be more wrong. The younger generation is getting away from even CDs.

Oh, I wasn't talking about the vinyl-haters. I was talking about the people who say that the younger generation wants music that's not old, not a format. 

If I seem to act unkind, it's only me, it's not my mind that is confusing things.

22 July 2011
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MeanMrsMustard said:

mr. Sun king coming together said:

MeanMrsMustard said:

Pshhh. I've developed a theory about those kinds of people. They:

1. Are stupid

2. Are ignorant

3. Just want to irritate Beatles fans

 Not to be mean, but I don't think that could be more wrong. The younger generation is getting away from even CDs.

Oh, I wasn't talking about the vinyl-haters. I was talking about the people who say that the younger generation wants music that's not old, not a format. 

Okay then, I'm wrong.

MeanMrsMustard said:

Why can't they just say that the music isn't their thing? And even then, the Beatles covered such a wide range of genres that you'd probably have to hate music in general to not find a Beatles song you like. 

True (although the voices could be an issue for someone without taste).

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22 July 2011
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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 Polythene Dan pointed out that you could be a Beatles-hater if you only like CRap. (See Zig's post in I can't remember which thread it was.) 

Meh, whenever people say that they "aren't good singers," I say, "'Because.' Look it up." 

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23 July 2011
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I guess the value of the records depend on how rare it is. It doesn't really depend on whether people think of it as 'old' or what not.

I went to the record store today, and the Beatles cost much more than other singers. (Elivs, Stones, Buddy Holly, etc.)

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28 July 2011
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For what it's worth - my guess is that value of orignal Beatle vinyls will drop as boomers die off - and then only serious collectors will want them.

On another note, I was always impressed that when the band was still together, whenever they were asked about people who didn't like the Beatles (for whatever - their hair, their music etc) they never attacked their critics. They simply said "If some people don't like us that's fine, they don't have to buy our records.

It's a good model to follow to this day when people criticize the Beatles - calling critics stupid, etc., is just not what the band themselves were about.

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28 July 2011
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I'm not sure I understand your logic. If serious collectors want the old vinyl wouldn't the value go up?

It's all about condition anyway. Lately I've seen more and more illustrated discography books being published, with different variations from around the world. I presume a comprehensive collection containing pristine items from many different countries would be worth far more than the odd vinyl copy of Revolver etc. Some things, such as the fan club singles, will always be worth lots because there weren't many manufactured and people didn't look after them.

Maybe the baby boomers will be gone in a while, but the world population is rising = more Beatles fans a-hard-days-night-george-10

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28 July 2011
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That is an interesting debate.

Will demand wane as the boomers do, or will it increase as new generations of Beatles fans are spawned?

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28 July 2011
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Zig said:

Will demand wane as the boomers do, or will it increase as new generations of Beatles fans are spawned?

Vinyl in general is booming - so will Beatles vinyl. Simple logic.

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29 July 2011
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From what I've read and heard: Collectors are looking for more of an unflawed album cover over the condition of the vinyl.  But like mr. Sun king said, vinyl is booming and it would seem that collectors may be looking for pristine recordings, i.e. scratch free! a-hard-days-night-ringo-6

1 August 2011
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The guy I got Rubber Soul from collected it for the cover, not the music. a-hard-days-night-john-7

But it was in pretty good condition.

But I guess it's all like that. I mean, it IS the Beatles. 

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