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17 August 2015
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Guy back right looks lost at times at what he’s singing.

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Totally forgot to post this, but I watched Home yesterday, and I actually really enjoyed it. Of course, I cried towards the end alot, mainly because if someone is crying on a screen, I join the party, and start tearing up tooahdn_paul_01ahdn_paul_02

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meanmistermustard said
Took me 2 years to see ‘Skyfall’.

I only Skyfall because I saw it the Friday night with 8 other people. Was it actually a good movie? I don’t remember it at all.

 

Also, HOT TAKE ALERT:

I hated Mission Impossible. What, exactly, is the point of the Jeremy Renner character?

As if it matters how a man falls down.'

'When the fall's all that's left, it matters a great deal.

21 August 2015
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I thought ‘Skyfall’ wasnt bad but nowhere near as good as everyone said it was. Truth be told aside from a few scenes (mainly at the end) i have no idea what happened either.

Never seen ‘Mission Impossible’ as i have formed the opinion that Tom Cruise cannot act.

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21 August 2015
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I’m a sucker for all action movies……..Get out the popcorn and float away…willingly suspending my disbelief. Nothing pretentious about old Wigwam. 

However, having said that there’s actually a lot of depth, literary references and symbolism in Skyfall which I would have thought might have caught your attention MMM.

 

For example in the clip below:……..Bond is told to meet with the quartermaster and that ‘Q’ will arrange the time and venue……

Bond is directed to meet in front of ‘The Fighting Temerraire’,  Turner’s painting of an old battleship that fought at Trafalgar being towed away to it’s final birth for scrap. Q very much views Bond as equally redundant in the modern world. He’s put Bond there for a purpose….He wants to humiliate Bond and question his usefulness. 

 

…….’A Brave New world’ indeed   The film is filled with Easter eggs.

From the film’s opening sequence where Bond falls to rise again. We know he can’t be dead and as his supine body flows over the falls we’re reminded of Holms and his demise at the Reichenbach  We know he’s not dead the films only bleeding started and we’re comforted that……..Reichenback means, ‘The man who lives in the Brook’

(No Brook Bond Jokes).

Tennyson’s Ulysses…….Openly quoted…..and powerfully relevant.

The description of Rats devouring each other on an Island until only one Rat was left…….And the villain dressed as a policeman with the number ‘101’ on his shoulder….a reference to Orwell’s 1984…….and room 101.

I tell you there’s a lot more to skyfall than at first meets the eye.

Give it another try sometime.

 

Man From Uncle was great too.

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meanmistermustard said
I thought ‘Skyfall’ wasnt bad but nowhere near as good as everyone said it was. Truth be told aside from a few scenes (mainly at the end) i have no idea what happened either.

Never seen ‘Mission Impossible’ as i have formed the opinion that Tom Cruise cannot act.

Since when did you have to be able to act to appear in a great movie? Is this something new in cinema?

This is a serious question.

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meanmistermustard said

Never seen ‘Mission Impossible’ as i have formed the opinion that Tom Cruise cannot act.

Agreed. He is a running joke in our household. Same goes for Kevin Costner.

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I saw it. The stunts were cool. Example under spoiler

 

https://youtu.be/52nwiTs7bk8

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Saw Ant Man yesterday after wanting to watch it for quite a while now. I really enjoyed it, definitely one of the best movies I’ve seen for quite a bit now!

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Saw Ant Man yesterday after wanting to watch it for quite a while now. I really enjoyed it, definitely one of the best movies I’ve seen for quite a bit now!

My son went to see it after much hesitation and really enjoyed it.

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Zig said

meanmistermustard said

Never seen ‘Mission Impossible’ as i have formed the opinion that Tom Cruise cannot act.

Agreed. He is a running joke in our household. Same goes for Kevin Costner.

So I ask my question once again about the need to act to be a great movie star – both of them have made some very enjoyable movies (Field of Dreams is one of my all-time favourites and Mission Impossible 4 was sensational).

I’m thinking John Wayne who could never act and made a film (The Searchers) which led me to call my son Ethan after his role in it.

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You dont have to be able to sign to be a hugely successful singer. It should matter but doesnt success-wise.

The awful Adam Sandler is churning out shit flop comedy after another yet making a fortune; Jason Statham plays the same character badly every film but is loaded; Hugh Grant could be replaced by a lump of wood and few would be able to tell yet is regarded as one of the better males of his field.

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You dont have to be able to sign to be a hugely successful singer. It should matter but doesnt success-wise.

The awful Adam Sandler is churning out shit flop comedy after another yet making a fortune; Jason Statham plays the same character badly every film but is loaded; Hugh Grant could be replaced by a lump of wood and few would be able to tell yet is regarded as one of the better males of his field.

Indeed, but both Adam Sandler and Hugh Grant have made some very enjoyable films as well. I’m merely raising the point after the posts where folks have chosen not to see films because the star isn’t a great actor – you are missing some potentially very enjoyable movies. At times charisma or suiting the role are enough in a film – much more so than in music in my humble.

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True. But why put yourself thru a good chance it will shit on the off-chance it might turn out decent? I’m not going out to listen to Miley Cyrus, Madonna or Cliff to find out if they have a decent new track/album. I’d rather avoid, save my time and miss out. I’m sure i’ll cope.

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Wigwam said

I tell you there’s a lot more to skyfall than at first meets the eye.

Thanks for your analysis @Wigwam. I wasn’t planning to watch the movie, but now I am! Oudis.

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Thanks @Wigwam, I will definitely check Skyfall out again this weekend. I had no idea the script was filled with that much intellectual content. For some reason the cinematic atmosphere created for the Skyfall estate itself reminded me of the last few Harry Potter movies. I think that may have distracted me somewhat. Haven’t seen Man From Uncle yet. That was my favorite TV show growing up (until The Monkees came along), so I’m not sure how I’ll react. Btw- the original Illya Kuryakin (David McCallum) is currently one of the stars of the most popular TV show here in the states.

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Thanks @Wigwam, I will definitely check Skyfall out again this weekend. I had no idea the script was filled with that much intellectual content. For some reason the cinematic atmosphere created for the Skyfall estate itself reminded me of the last few Harry Potter movies. I think that may have distracted me somewhat. Haven’t seen Man From Uncle yet. That was my favorite TV show growing up (until The Monkees came along), so I’m not sure how I’ll react. Btw- the original Illya Kuryakin (David McCallum) is currently one of the stars of the most popular TV show here in the states.

Yes I can get the old series on my android TV……They have that ‘Penny Lane , meanwhile back’ technique that I’d forgotten about. David McCallum was a brilliant Russian……and he’s aged so well. Suspect he sleeps in a fridge.

As for the other discussion. Some people are known for great acting and some for being in entertaining or exciting films. I’d class Statham, Cruise and Costner in that bracket……If they are in a film I’ll tend to want to watch it because of them…..

Hugh Grant is simply brilliant in his admittedly stereotyped  role of a diffident English romantic lead……. in Man From Uncle he steps ever so slightly out of his comfort zone and plays a diffident English uncle ‘Waverly’. But he steals every scene he’s in.

Someone described acting as being paid to shout. If a film is moving or exciting then the actor has done their job. But if rightly or wrongly an actor grates on you and you can’t suspend your disbelief then the film won’t work.

Fortunately for me I can get into anything………I even found the pathos of Buzz Lightyear’s false confidence, doubting introspection and ultimate redemption strangely moving…..5555

 

Now I must check out Ant Man.

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On Skyfall, here’s some other bits and pieces……..

http://thediscussion.net/main/…..t-skyfall/

 

In terms of the stolen painting….that’s also a nod to ‘Dr No’, the film 50 years before in 1962 that started it all off.  Goya’s painting of, ‘The Duke of wellington’ in No’s undersea lair had recently stolen and turns up with No. 

 

Oh yes, also I believe the painting in M’s office pointedly framed by M and Bond is of trafalgar and includes The Fighting Temerraire. 

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trcanberra said

So I ask my question once again about the need to act to be a great movie star – both of them have made some very enjoyable movies (Field of Dreams is one of my all-time favourites and Mission Impossible 4 was sensational).
I’m thinking John Wayne who could never act and made a film (The Searchers) which led me to call my son Ethan after his role in it.

trcanberra said

I’m merely raising the point after the posts where folks have chosen not to see films because the star isn’t a great actor – you are missing some potentially very enjoyable movies. At times charisma or suiting the role are enough in a film – much more so than in music in my humble.

For me, I started enjoying John Wayne’s westerns as a kid – long before I cared about whether or not he could act. I still love them all. As an adult, I know what I like and what I don’t. I don’t care for Cruise or Costner as actors. That does not mean I will puposefully avoid movies they star in as a rule. Rather, I will see movies they are in despite them. The only movie I saw in which I enjoyed Costner’s character was Silverado (yep – I’m a sucker for westerns). As for Cruise, I liked A Few Good Men and Collateral despite his shortcomings as a performer. If I do happen to miss a film because they were in it, I’ll survive. I hear there are a few great movies made throughout history that star neither one of them – I’ll settle for watching those.

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To be filed in the ‘Why? Its going to be majorly crap’ pile.

Disney are reportedly developing a sequel to ‘Mary Poppins’.

Still, slower than Apple to do a follow-up to a popular release.

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