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The "Incredibly Impossible to Derail This Thread" thread
21 October 2014
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The guy who writes the report, Joel Freimark, makes a very good point that so much music nowadays is streamed or watched online in youtube or wherever either for free or as part of a paid membership. Why pay £10 for one album when you can can pay around the same price for an account with spotify where you can listen to far more.

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21 October 2014
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So, it seems it says more about buying habits than the music itself. Makes a lot of sense. Thanks!

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21 October 2014
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I’ll be honest and admit i have no idea what new albums have been released this year. I do know that some record company was looking to Adele’s new album for huge sales but that now wont be coming out till next year – will be amazed if that doesn’t sell well over a million.

Haven’t One Direction got a new album due out and Taylor Swift has a new single out bitching about Harry Styles (different to all the old singles bitching about Harry Styles) so i presume she’s got a new album. Not expecting these to generate millions of copies being sold but they are/were two of the biggest names at one point, certainly the biggest i know of.

Should add that i listened to the latest ‘new’ Johnny Cash album as part of a free streaming account i have so there is one sale lost (after playing it thru i decided it wasnt worth buying).

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21 October 2014
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Ron Nasty said

@Ahhh Girl said
What building is there?

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27 Ovington Square is the registered offices of Apple Corps Limited.

Does very much actually happen there?

22 October 2014
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They have very long meetings about what not to put out and how to go about not putting it out. And they do it darn well. Occasionally one of them sends out for tea and biscuits. Busy days over there.

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22 October 2014
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meanmistermustard said
The guy who writes the report, Joel Freimark, makes a very good point that so much music nowadays is streamed or watched online in youtube or wherever either for free or as part of a paid membership. Why pay £10 for one album when you can can pay around the same price for an account with spotify where you can listen to far more.

You’re right @meanmistermustard, and that makes me fear for the future of CDs –their fate seems to be that of LPs, and another art form (the covers) will be lost; also the idea of an album as a conceptual expression runs the risk of being left behind, with people only buying their favorite songs as “singles” –or am I just thinking and ranting like an old man?

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22 October 2014
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Albums and their covers will remain because there is a demand for them but the market is rapidly changing whilst the record industry is dragging its feet like a victim in a horror film drags its a bloody stump (formerly a leg) thru a forest. It has to act quicker and more decisively in how to modernise instead of reacting too late to whats been happening.

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^ I think sound tracks will be the way to go

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22 October 2014
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There’s more than one factor besides streaming, though.  Honestly, I’m a bit disturbed with how morally okay the majority of my generation is with stealing music.

 

I tend to agree with what Kirk Hammett of Metallica said about iTunes killing music.  One of the reasons that a lot of music today is so bland is because everybody’s just trying to write singles that will get the most downloads.  Hardly anyone dares to experiment or push the boundaries anymore.  Albums are no longer works of art, but collections of safe, predictable songs that’ll sell well, plus a couple filler tracks.  We’ve reverted back to the fifties/early sixties in terms of album format.

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I really hate the fact that music is turning into not just trash, but boring trash. I hate dubstep, but at least it was somewhat inventive.

Oudis, MMM, and Necko all summarize it perfectly. People just want the sales, it’s not really about the music as art. The only thing I think Oudis is wrong about is the disappearance of album cover art. It won’t disappear, just become smaller (just like LP-> CD-> Digital) and therefore less creative because people don’t really need to look at it.

In the ‘olden days’ if someone liked a song they heard, on the radio etc, they bought the whole album to listen to it, and probably enjoyed the other things the artist had to offer. Now people are content in buying that one song and not giving a crap about its context in either an album or that artists over all work.

I understand that it’s nice to be able to buy one song you like on iTunes, but it is killing the musicianship, and seems to be making it easier for everyone and everyone they know to have a hit song, decreasing the value of saying you’re a professional musician.

As much as I love technology, I hate it too. Everyone watches concerts through screens (I am guilty of filming bits of Ringo last night, but I just pushed the button and looked past the screen, just wanting something to document being there with a Beatle. Most of the show the phone was in the pocket.), ignores people to be on their phones, etc. I’m not sure if it’s helping or hindering humankind.

I just hope someone finds a solution soon, a compromise to keep the art. And at least we know there are people like us still interested in full albums. And creative music.

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23 October 2014
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ahdn_paul_06 I think it is just how tastes change. One man’s trash is another mans treasure. I have been following the pop charts and their are some good and some bad songs in my opinion.

 

People in the past also made songs because of money even the Beatles were guilty of this sometimes.

 

Now there is much more focus on the music video than back then because if someone likes a song, they will look it up on YouTube.

 

and for technology helping or hindering mankind. Something like that can’t be generalized since for people who are very shy it helps them to express themselves while others feel like they loose that human connection.

 

I think that the main money making for music will be sound tracks for movies, TV or Video games

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23 October 2014
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I know money has always been part of the motivation in music, but I feel that people loved playing their instruments and making music before, and even though they wanted the money it wasn’t the main focus. Although I know there are definitely artists today that play for the sake of playing, I think they’re just playing safer. If I happen to find myself in a store with new music on I can always predict what’s going to happen. There’s usually a phrase or two that’s repeated, a basic chord progression, and somewhere in the middle there’s either a stop before an unoriginal buildup back into the song or a rap break. Usually the former.

I agree that it is subjective, I’m just not a fan of the new stuff. Maybe I’m ignorant and am not giving it a chance, but I’ve heard enough of a broad range of new music and just don’t enjoy it.
At least not the popular stuff. If I looked for some small modern blues groups, for example, I might find someone I like, and I have found some good songs accidentally, but I’d rather just go back to the 60’s and 70’s and listen to some great stuff.

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23 October 2014
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I had a really disturbing nightmare.  a-hard-days-night-ringo-14 Ugh, it’s been a long time since I had one..

I had fallen asleep on the couch… it’s 3am here…  my hubby should be home any minute from his graveyard shift (I hope) and I really don’t wanna go back to sleep until he gets here..  paul-mccartney 

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There is a solar eclipses right now on the sun in the US

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Not surprising considering what his house is like. That and the weather.

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What I learned today:

That a British passport is the most desirable passport to have.

I finally established that otters holding hands is the cutest thing in the world (they do it so when they are asleep they don’t drift away from each other).

That I can resist temptation from biscuits (haven’t touched the packet of custard creams in the press a-hard-days-night-paul-8)

My favourite colour is officially purple

 

A rather productive day I think that and I’m on midterm break yoohoo!

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That otter picture is so damn adorable. My word, so cute.heart That might just be the picture to make me smile regardless.

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For @trcanberra when he returns

Canberra ranked ‘best place to live’ by OECD

 

Speaking of @trcanberra, I have a Beatles calendar hanging on my wall, and this was the image for September.

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