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vonbontee said

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That gives me a separate idea, on the history of american rock. 'Cause really, Britain's kills everyone in terms of musical talent. My top 5 bands ever are 4/5 British, with Nirvana being the only Americans.

Hah, you're sure to get some major disagreement from me as far as that goes! :)

This just came up somewhere else on the site, a "top 10 bands" list or something.  I looked at someone's top 100 list that I found on the web, and it seemed fairly consistent to what my top 100 would be.  I counted 60 American 31 British, a couple canadians and don't knows.  So while I agree that the UK produced the best bands, USA wins in total talent.  I mean, quick list of my top 10 bands (genesis, rolling stones, tom petty, john mellencamp, led zeppelin, the who, steely dan, the clash, pink floyd, seems i'm forgetting someone...) - 7 british (and knopfler, elton, elvis costello, in my top 20...clapton...you get the idea). So I have no qualms in giving you guys the crown as overall best music, just not best music overall.  Or something like that...

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Even if the UK wins pop-musicwise (which is debatable), there's still a whole world of jazz and blues and soul that the Brits can't possibly hope to match.

(This shouldn't be surprising - the USA is a big country! They've got the numbers on their side.)

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vonbontee said
Even if the UK wins pop-musicwise (which is debatable), there's still a whole world of jazz and blues and soul that the Brits can't possibly hope to match.

(This shouldn't be surprising - the USA is a big country! They've got the numbers on their side.)

If its numbers why isn't Indian or Chinese music as widespread?

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vonbontee said
Even if the UK wins pop-musicwise (which is debatable), there's still a whole world of jazz and blues and soul that the Brits can't possibly hope to match.

(This shouldn't be surprising - the USA is a big country! They've got the numbers on their side.)

That's the point I made upthread on country and rap.

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Annadog40 said

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Even if the UK wins pop-musicwise (which is debatable), there's still a whole world of jazz and blues and soul that the Brits can't possibly hope to match.

(This shouldn't be surprising - the USA is a big country! They've got the numbers on their side.)

If its numbers why isn't Indian or Chinese music as widespread?

@Annadog40 They're just not as musically appealing worldwide as other   genres, I doubt many Chinese listen to country music.

@vonbontee / @Von Bontee The US does really trump the UK jazz/blues wise. But I still think they're ahead in rock/pop

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Annadog40 said

vonbontee said

(This shouldn't be surprising - the USA is a big country! They've got the numbers on their side.)

If its numbers why isn't Indian or Chinese music as widespread?

Maybe because, for all intents and purposes, they were 3rd world countries until fairly recently.  At least regarding the general populations' interaction with the rest of the world, which wasn't much.  Maybe it's not numbers so much as it is $$$?  USA certainly has those, and if we don't we mint more lol.  Interestingly, the list of artists who have sold over 250 million records is: The Beatles, Elvis Presley, Michael Jackson, Madonna, Elton John, Led Zeppelin, and Pink Floyd.  Correct me if I'm wrong, not knowing how things were promoted in the UK, but the American artists, plus the Beatles, did a lot of self promotion, while Elton, Zeppelin, and Pink Floyd didn't do a bunch of promotional videos and appearances.

So of the 7 best selling artists, there are  4 UK, 3 USA.  This page breaks down the best selling artists from (claimed) sales of over 600 million down to 75 million (which equates to certified sales from about 250 million to 25 million).  The Beatles and Elvis were the two highest with 600 million claimed sales, but the Beatles had 259 million certified, while Elvis only had around 200 million.  So yay fab four!

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I've read in a number of places that sales of the Beatles records are over a billion - is that just rubbish then?

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This place says they've sold over 2 billion, but wikipedia only says 600 million.

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I've read in a number of places that sales of the Beatles records are over a billion - is that just rubbish then?

A billion in money made or a billion records sold?

 

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Records sold.

statisticbrain.com reports it as over 2 billion and uses Apple and RIAA as the sources.

Rolling Stones writes in their bibliography entry ". . . they went on to sell more than a billion records. . ."

 

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meanmistermustard said
Records sold.

statisticbrain.com reports it as over 2 billion and uses Apple and RIAA as the sources.

Rolling Stones writes in their bibliography entry ". . . they went on to sell more than a billion records. . ."

 

Also found the ultimate question answered - "Will One Direction overtake Beatles?"

@meanmistermustard Obviously! Which is why I'm starting the 1D Bible which you can find here.

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Mr. Kite said

meanmistermustard said
Records sold.

statisticbrain.com reports it as over 2 billion and uses Apple and RIAA as the sources.

Rolling Stones writes in their bibliography entry ". . . they went on to sell more than a billion records. . ."

 

Also found the ultimate question answered - "Will One Direction overtake Beatles?"

@meanmistermustard Obviously! Which is why I'm starting the 1D Bible which you can find here.

Have you seen the stats? You might want to rethink your site.

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@meanmistermustard Did you click the link?

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Mr. Kite said

meanmistermustard said
Records sold.

statisticbrain.com reports it as over 2 billion and uses Apple and RIAA as the sources.

Rolling Stones writes in their bibliography entry ". . . they went on to sell more than a billion records. . ."

 

Also found the ultimate question answered - "Will One Direction overtake Beatles?"

meanmistermustard Obviously! Which is why I'm starting the 1D Bible which you can find here. <- - -

Wow that is a very extensive site

 

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Mr. Kite said
@meanmistermustard Did you click the link?

Yip and i saw a tons of stats about the Beatles achievements.

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I just saw a picture of One Direction on Abbey Road, the Harry Potter saying "How dare you stand where they stood"

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meanmistermustard said

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@meanmistermustard Did you click the link?

Yip and i saw a tons of stats about the Beatles achievements.

I meant mine. I just want to make sure you know I'm joking, I saw all those great stats in your link.

I really need to stop with my sarcastic One Direction jokes... a-hard-days-night-ringo-6

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I got your sarcasm MR. K., no one really thinks 1D are better, they say they are but they know down inside they are not. apple01

 

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They can't really be taken seriously. They don't write their own songs or play their instruments. They're really a vocal group.

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