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The "Incredibly Impossible to Derail This Thread" thread
13 March 2013
5.57pm
Ron Nasty
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Glad the credit card option seems it's going to work out.

Couple of points to make.

Joe wasn't recommending Paul's old house. Cavendish Avenue, a five-ten minute walk from Abbey Road, is the only London home Paul has ever owned. He still owns it. The last time it featured in the news was when he and Nancy left it as he and Linda had years earlier to get married at the same Registry Office. If Paul is in London for the night, that's where he is.

Public transport in London. It can be very expensive. At your earliest opportunity, what you need to do is either get a seven-day travelcard (the shortest time period available) or an Oyster Card. I don't know the exact difference nowadays because I have been on free travel due to illness the past couple of years, The last time I had to pay for travel, non-Oyster travel added about a pound to each journey. A travelcard is probably your best option, but paying for transport as you get on it is your worst, and most expensive. Travelcards and Oyster cover all main London public transport. Tubes (metro), buses, and trains. All are between 50%-100% more expensive without.

Hope you have a great stay.

 

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13 March 2013
6.09pm
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LIVE! THERE IS WHITE SMOKE FROM THE VATICAN! A NEW POPE! WILL IT BE BONO!

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13 March 2013
6.45pm
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mja6758 said

Funny Paper said
I tried this idea out at the James Taylor fan site -- nobody seemed impressed.ahdn_george_05

Anyway, imagine a concert where James Taylor, Paul McCartney, and Paul Simon get together to do each other's songs, all together.  It could be billed as:

 

James

James Paul

&

Paul

 

 

Have any of these artists ever appeared in concert billed just by their Christian names? Has Paul ever used James outside of one TV special? I'm not surprised nobody was impressed on the James Taylor site. There's nothing in the idea to be impressed by. Sorry, Funny Paper, it just doesn't work.

Well, there are a few things going on with that billing:  They are the only three quite famous solo singer'songwriter artists who hail from an era long gone by yet still hot, with every pairing among the three having collaborated in the past but never all three (Paul and JT have done stuff; Paul and JT have done stuff; Paul and Paul have done stuff though far less so), whose first names reveal a pivot (with the help of Paul's use of his own middle name instead of his first name) -- from James to James Paul to Paul, creating the effect of passing on the baton so to speak, yet still retaining the unity. 

And, such a concert would have the extraordinary benefit of combining three great artists in one collaboration.

P.S.:  I think Paul once used "James" or "James Paul" for something -- an album, a song, or a concert. 

 

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13 March 2013
6.48pm
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P.S.:  Or the concert could be billed as:

 

Three Grumpy Old Men

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13 March 2013
6.52pm
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I say it! To quote myself "Has Paul ever used James outside of one TV special?" Paul had a 70s TV special called "James Paul McCartney". So your PS ignored what I had already said!

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13 March 2013
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mja6758 said
I say it! To quote myself "Has Paul ever used James outside of one TV special?" Paul had a 70s TV special called "James Paul McCartney". So your PS ignored what I had already said!

Quite right.  Though the larger context reveals a pointless rhetorical question on your part.

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13 March 2013
7.41pm
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No, it points out YOU missing the rhetorical question, and then going on to wonder whether there wasn't an occasion where Paul had used the James! I say it all in the original sentence. You're the one who says you think he used it for something! I've already said exactly what he used it for!

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13 March 2013
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How about one super-duper concert with Chad & Jeremy and Peter & Gordon and Simon & Garfunkel and Hall & Oates and Loggins & Messina and Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich?

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14 March 2013
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mja6758 said
No, it points out YOU missing the rhetorical question, and then going on to wonder whether there wasn't an occasion where Paul had used the James! I say it all in the original sentence. You're the one who says you think he used it for something! I've already said exactly what he used it for!

As I said already, you're right about that detail -- but that detail is tangential to my larger point.  And what's the point of you pointing that out?  So Paul only once used "James Paul" in any official entertainment capacity -- and...?  Because he only did so once, he can never do so again?

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14 March 2013
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Sometimes I use this thread for my random thoughts that don't fit anywhere else.

Today at work my boss was explaining an unfortunate work situation to the assistant, and I said to him "You Mad Bro?"...  he said "no" and explained to me why, like it was a legitimate question.  a-hard-days-night-john-7 Whatever gets me through the day..  a-hard-days-night-paul-10

"Please don't bring your banjo back, I know where it's been..  I wasn't hardly gone a day, when it became the scene..  Banjos!  Banjos!  All the time, I can't forget that tune..  and if I ever see another banjo, I'm going out and buy a big balloon!"

 

14 March 2013
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So there's a new pope.

So we've had a John Paul and now we have a Jorge. We all know who's nextahdn_ringo_09

14 March 2013
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Gringo!

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14 March 2013
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All together now, "The pope smokes dope/God gave him the grass/The pope smokes dope, he likes to smoke in mass"

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14 March 2013
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Just to correct fabfouremily on something. If visiting museums is on your list, you won't find them any cheaper in June than in any other month of the year. The vast majority of London national museums and art galleries have free entry, just have collection boxes if you want to make a contribution. I'd recommend the Victoria & Albert Museum. But you go to Exhibition Road and you have museum next door to museum. You'll find the V&A there, the Science Museum, and the Natural History Museum. I've spent days on end lost there. The V&A has a small Beatles display, or has always had when I've been there, the last time being about nine months ago. If museums are something that interest, the best are free.

Sorry about that, I was under the impression that the prices are a little cheaper term-time.

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14 March 2013
6.18pm
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Linde said
So there's a new pope.

So we've had a John Paul and now we have a Jorge. We all know who's nextahdn_ringo_09

 

Actually, Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio (his father was an Italian immigrant to Venezuela) took the name Francis I -- obviously in honor of Francis Albert Sinatra. brian-epstein

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14 March 2013
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15 March 2013
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mja6758 said
Glad the credit card option seems it's going to work out.

Couple of points to make.

Joe wasn't recommending Paul's old house. Cavendish Avenue, a five-ten minute walk from Abbey Road, is the only London home Paul has ever owned. He still owns it. The last time it featured in the news was when he and Nancy left it as he and Linda had years earlier to get married at the same Registry Office. If Paul is in London for the night, that's where he is.

Public transport in London. It can be very expensive. At your earliest opportunity, what you need to do is either get a seven-day travelcard (the shortest time period available) or an Oyster Card. I don't know the exact difference nowadays because I have been on free travel due to illness the past couple of years, The last time I had to pay for travel, non-Oyster travel added about a pound to each journey. A travelcard is probably your best option, but paying for transport as you get on it is your worst, and most expensive. Travelcards and Oyster cover all main London public transport. Tubes (metro), buses, and trains. All are between 50%-100% more expensive without.

Hope you have a great stay.

 

Aaaah! So I could just accidentally bump into Paul.

 

Okay, I'm now googling what they both are exactly, but there are so many websites with different stuff so I'll just ask here. Which is better, Travelcard or Oystercard? Also, where do you get one?

 

Thank for all the tips guys, you're really helping me out here.

15 March 2013
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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 I was wrong on one thing about transport, there are daily travelcards available. However, if you have an Oyster Card, it will stop charging you when you reach the cost of a daily travelcard. I would suggest that a Pay As You Go Oyster Card is probably your best bet. The problem with travelcards is that London is divided into several zones for travel, and travelcards are sold on the basis of those zones. Find yourself wandering out of those zones and you're having to pay. You do not get that problem with an Oyster Card. Travelcards are available at most overground and underground train stations. Oyster Cards are available all over the place. Some stations have Oyster Card dispensing machines, many many shops do them as well, and allow you to top them up. You will usually see some variation of this

Oystercard.jpg

in the windows, and they will often have something like "Travel Stop" in the window as well. It is pointless to say the type of shop to look for, because all sorts of shops provide the service. The thing to look for is the Oyster Card colouring. But it should be obvious quite quickly.

You may find these sites useful, the first for more than just travel.

http://www.visitlondon.com/tra.....don/oyster

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/

Hope this helps.

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20 March 2013
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Watching the UK Budget be announced is like watching unruly 5 year old boys taunting yucky horrible girls who are retorting by name calling and a teacher who keeps trying to get them to shut up but cant do it. Pathetic to see from grown-ups.

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20 March 2013
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I think bikelock is from London, if I remember correctly, though I don't know if she'll know anything about it either tho. Maybe PM her? Good luck

Yup, a true Cockney!

For places to stay, there's a Youth Hostel near St Paul's, that's probably pretty cheap.

Wimpole Street, where Paul lived with Jane Asher, is near Oxford Street. You should definitely do the museums- British Museum in Holborn and Museum of London in The City are the best IMO. I think the V & A is a bit posh, but that's probably just me. Science Museum is good, especially if you're going with kids (I'm assuming you're not, though). British Library near King's Cross is also very cool. The National Gallery is a good place to hang round if you’re at a loose end (in other words- its free).

Joe's right about the East End, it’s the place to be. You can get tours around the Olympic Park, too.

The City is very pretty because it has old 17th-centruy architecture. The South bank is also really nice, it’s opposite Big Ben and the London Eye is there, there’s a lot of mime artists and street entertainers.

Nightlife-wise, Shoreditch and Soho are the best. Soho is a predominantly gay area with lots of cool music shops, but Joe's right when he says its a bit seedy. Shoreditch is often full of students and hipsters but its OK. Concert venues are the O2 in Greenwich and the Hammersmith Odeon. They're both pretty expensive- the O2 is bigger and any did there will be pretty phenonmenal. West End theatres are great- lastminute.com is the place to go for cheap tickets.

Other advice:

Watch out for pigeons- they have no shame or fear. Bring a map. Stand on the right-hand side of the escalator. If in doubt, stick to the Central Line (that’s the red one). Don’t bring a massive rucksack on the Tube.  Try to avoid eye contact with anyone. Under no circumstances should you start a conversation with anybody, especially on public transport.

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