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The "Incredibly Impossible to Derail This Thread" thread
9 November 2012
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Wow, I didn't think the Nielson ratings had any relevence left in the age of Netflix and timeshifting and whatnot.

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9 November 2012
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BluemeanAl said
So for something completely different (not that the birther debate doesn't have its conspiracy-theory charms):  my wife informs me that we're about to be a Nielson family.  Yes, folks in the US, what is available for you to watch on TV is about to be inordinately influenced by the likes of us:  white, middle class, childless baby boomers who time-shift nearly everything that we watch on television. 

We have some experience with this, by the way.  In the mid-80s we spent three years on the Nielson team.  Our viewing habits were undoubtedly responsible for the popularity of a whole slew of classic 80s shows.  Shows like...like...mmm...well, I can't actually remember the shows, but they must be classics!

So let me know if you've got a jones for a particular show that needs a rating boost -- maybe we can work out a deal.  As the Nielson compensation for our services is, I guess amusing would be the kind way to put it (we used to get two very crisp dollar bills with each diary that arrived in the mail -- I used to wonder whose job it was to stuff THOSE envelopes, stacks of uncirculated bills on one side, stacks of diaries and envelopes on the other), monetary donations would go a long way toward furthering your cause.

(If the Nielson police are now monitoring my posts, my donation solicitation here is a JOKE!  We feel that it is a privilege to do this work for you for free so that your company can make scads of cash from the fruits of our labor-- apparently all of it in stacks of fresh-from-the-mint $1 bills.)

It seems like television and movies are being revolutionized by the new digital media, including phones and Internet.  There may come a day not to distant in the future when people won't "watch TV" or "go to the movies" anymore, but will simply dial up whatever they want to watch on their computer.  Similarly with music -- though music has the dimension of the live concert which probably can never be replaced. 

 

At the very least, you'd think the Nielsen organization would do its sampling via Internet; or are they still quaintly stuck in the 1950s?

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9 November 2012
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Good question...(and thanks, Nielsen, not Nielson -- I thought something looked wrong there).  It sounds like we are getting a diary, but I wasn't on the phone call.  I know that there are "people meters" of some sort, no idea how they work.  And how you watch shows (TV, computer, tablet, phone, direct feed to the brain, shadow puppets, whatever), when you watch (live, delayed, and for me at least, sometimes delayed by weeks or months), and stuff like channel-surfing, certainly renders the old model obsolete.  Even in the 80s we were time-shifting with our VCR, and that was not really adequately accounted-for then, IMO.

We used to have a meter on our television, which basically kept track of what times/how long the TV was on -- but not which channel and not whether anyone was watching (my wife is semi-home-bound and so one of our TVs is on all day long providing background noise for her, but she's not "watching" anything during most of that time).  On the diary we needed to account for all of those "on" hours, which was next to impossible.  We cheated the system at times, in that if the power went out, the meter reset itself to zero.  We had a lot of "power outages" (whoops!  Did this thing come unplugged again??) as a result so that we didn't need to fill in each and every 15 min block of time during the day.

The entire concept seems archaic, doesn't it?  Yet it still lives on, and so far, still "counts" when it comes to advertising dollars.  Given that I hate being surveyed and am likely to give an off-the-wall answer just to mess with the outcome of the survey, I'm probably not the best choice for this sort of thing.  Plus we're geezers now...advertisers really don't like us.  Whatever shows we watch will end up with a bunch of AARP, healthcare, and adult diaper commercials.

We'll see.

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9 November 2012
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I just read this whole thread!a-hard-days-night-paul-10

9 November 2012
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I just read this whole thread!
Really! All 174 pages. Must have taken a while. Did it make any sense?

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9 November 2012
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meanmistermustard said
I just read this whole thread!
Really! All 174 pages. Must have taken a while. Did it make any sense?

I don't know- I feel completely disoriented now. Where am I?a-hard-days-night-john-3

9 November 2012
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"Even in the 80s we were time-shifting with our VCR, and that was not really adequately accounted-for then, IMO."

 

There was an amusing scene in the first Back to the Future movie, where Michael J. Fox is sitting around the dinner table with the family who took him in when he went backward in time to the 1950s (the teenage daughter who has a crush on him being the person who will, in the future, grow up to be his own mother!), and the TV is on (black and white of course) and a famous popular show comes on, and Michael -- who has been carefully pretending to be normal and not from the future -- blurts out without thinking:

 

"Oh, I saw that one -- it's funny"

 

And the teenage girl says in bewilderment:

 

"What!?  How could you have seen that show?  It's just now starting...!"

 

Of course, they didn't even have the concept of "re-runs" back then.

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10 November 2012
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Whenever I want to feel old, I just remind myself that "Back To The Future" (which I saw in the theatre as a teenager) is significantly FURTHER back in the past than Marty McFly traveled!

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13 November 2012
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Is it? Doesn't Marty travel to from 1985 to 1955? That's 30 years, and if its 2012 now its 27 years since 1985....I heard that they're remaking them when its the 30th anniversary.

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13 November 2012
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I hope their not remaking Back To The Future. Cant they let films age without having to 'modernise' them for a new audience? Surely people are capable of watching old films on dvd without going gee wouldnt this be so much better with fancy new effects and swishy noises and garbled dialogue that is so flat you couldnt get an ameba beneath it?

Why dont the film companies just say we want your cash but cant be bothered coming up with a new idea so have decided to remake an oldie?

 

On a different subject The Beatles song Taxman got a Football Ground announcer fired. The tannoy man played it during half-time of the Scottlish Premier League Hibernian v Dundee United match on Sunday as a dig at their closest rivals Hearts (or Heart of Midlothian) who are struggling to survive after being hit with a winding up order by the Taxman.

Taxman was also played at a lot of Scottish grounds when Rangers were being chased for unpaid tax bills (but no one got fired).

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13 November 2012
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OK duh, for some reason I was thinking Marty traveled back 20 years instead of 30 - a problem I wouldn't have had if I'd only stopped to reflect that he was travelling from the '80s back to the '50s! (Bonehead.)

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15 November 2012
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My favorite line from Back to the Future (besides the one I quoted above) is when Marty is trying to convince someone (finally) that he's from the future, and that person, skeptical, says:  "Okay, tell me who's President in the future."

 

"Ronald Reagan," says Marty.

 

The skeptic roars with laughter, and says:

 

"I suppose you're also going to tell me that Jack Benny is Secretary of State!"

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15 November 2012
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 The best bit has to be in the first one, when Marty says, "This one's an oldie....well, it's an oldie where I come from," and then rips into Johnny B Goode (that version was the when I realsied how rock 'n' roll is) and then the guy is on the phone to Chuck Berry.

Although actually, my favourite out of the BttF films is the second one. Not many people like it, but I think it is the most exciting because of the dead-Dad threat and the bit where he has to go back again to the disco in 1955and not run into himself. Its just a shame that there probably won't be flying skateboards and automatically lace-up shoes in 2015.

 

MMM- apparently the BttF films are being re-amde for 2015 and Justin Beiber will play Marty. I read it in a dumb magazine a while ago. Its probably not true, so don't worry!

 

VB- Imagine if Marty did  travel back to 1965....look out, Shea Stadium!

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15 November 2012
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bikelock28 said
 The best bit has to be in the first one, when Marty says, "This one's an oldie....well, it's an oldie where I come from," and then rips into Johnny B Goode (that version was the when I realsied how rock 'n' roll is) and then the guy is on the phone to Chuck Berry.

Although actually, my favourite out of the BttF films is the second one. Not many people like it, but I think it is the most exciting because of the dead-Dad threat and the bit where he has to go back again to the disco in 1955and not run into himself. Its just a shame that there probably won't be flying skateboards and automatically lace-up shoes in 2015.

 

MMM- apparently the BttF films are being re-amde for 2015 and Justin Beiber will play Marty. I read it in a dumb magazine a while ago. Its probably not true, so don't worry!

 

VB- Imagine if Marty did  travel back to 1965....look out, Shea Stadium!

Wow, I'm embarrassed to admit this, but I didn't know there was more than one Back to the Future film!  All this time.  I'll have to check out the other ones.

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15 November 2012
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That Justin Beiber story surely is made-up garbage. I saw him in CSI and a piece of wood would have done a better job.

I liked the first 2 but found the third to be one too many, it didnt work for me for some reason, just couldnt get into it.

Like Bikelock i liked the second for the whole cannot meet himself angle but the first two are fabulous films and never get tiring no matter how many times i see them.

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16 November 2012
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Back To The Future reboot:

 

1985 Citizen: So you say you're from the year 2011? OK wise guy, tell me who's the Governor of California?

Marty McFly: Arnold Schwarzeneggar.

1985 Citzen: The weightlifter?! Haw haw haw, yeah right! And I suppose the President is black!

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18 November 2012
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Twinkies have so much chemical preservatives that would probably survive a nuclear attack, but they could not survive a labor strike. Someone has to have one from 1985...I wonder what it looks like...

two-virgins 

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19 November 2012
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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 same with a hamburger from McDonald's. everyone is freaking out because Hostess apparently went out of business, but I never cared for the food. mainly because of all the preservatives!

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25 November 2012
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25 November 2012
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Mithapple01 Vacation timeheart Work and life still hectic for you i presume so enjoy your hols like never before. Nice to see you here again. 

 

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