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Funny Paper said

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Please don´t - that would be a tiny bit racist.

What race is Islam again?

Islam is a religion. So talking about the ''problem with Islam'' didn´t seem quite right somehow.

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It's still racist to diss an entire f***ing religion. I really don't think dissing Islam as a homogeneous group of people gets you very far.

As if it matters how a man falls down.'

'When the fall's all that's left, it matters a great deal.

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Is it?
Surely its the context and content of the work, its approach, how it is written? Or are religions not to be questioned.
We havent even read what Funny Paper would have said yet. There is a book called 'The Problem with Christianity' by Josiah Roycs (do a google search as i cant post links).
Taken by whats been said that book is wrong yet the description is
"This new paperback edition of Royce's late masterpiece presents his philosophical interpretation of Christianity's fundamental ideas -- community, sin, atonement, and saving grace -- and shows their relevance to the current confluence of world religions."

I doubt anyone here is promoting anti-islam or any other religion (there is no place for anything like that at all ever) but all religions should be open to discussion. At the very least we should wait to see what would have been written before jumping in the air.

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A Bit Of George-Lovin'

Today I was explaning the Beatles break-up to a friend of mine who is a complete Beatles-ignoramus (she didn't know that they sang I Want To Hold Your Hand a-hard-days-night-ringo-6). I was explaining about the White Album and I was like, "The most well-known song on it is probably While My Guitar Gently Weeps," and later on I was explaining about Abbey Road and I was like, "The most well-known song on it is probably Here Comes The Sun...or Something," and I realised that they were all Harrison songs. And I felt so happy that George's songs are the best-known on two of the most highly-rated Beatle albums. So yeah, there's my bit of George-lovin' for this evening. ahdn_george_08

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I believe Funny Paper was mostly just making a joke about the alleged un-derailibility of this thread that its title promises. (I think...)

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Hi there.

 

I'm around.. just very busy. And very sick. A little problem in my lungs, nothing that tons of orange juice and medicine. So please send some good vibes to me ok?

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Not wanting to start a political debate but absolutely delighted and very relieved that Obama won a second term in the US Elections. Romney's policies scared the living crap out of me at times.

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I knew Obama was going to win again, but I was still a little disappointed. It was getting a little intense with Florida and Ohio for awhile, though. 

I guess the NAACP were outside of a voting place handing out water, lol. Who are these people? Shouldn't that organization be dead? I don't know why but I just thought that was really funny.

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Aw, hope you're feeling better, Mithvaean. Best wishes & lots of oranges & apples :)

In other news, is Donald Trump a super-colossal buffoon or what?

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Did Trump ever have to pay the $5m that he put up if Obama's birth certificate or college enrolement form was ever produced?
Never got this fascination in all of that, its just idiocy in my opinion. The same kind as those who were/are intent in believing that Paul was/is dead or Elvis was/is alive.

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meanmistermustard said
Did Trump ever have to pay the $5m that he put up if Obama's birth certificate or college enrolement form was ever produced?
Never got this fascination in all of that, its just idiocy in my opinion. The same kind as those who were/are intent in believing that Paul was/is dead or Elvis was/is alive.

Yes, I can see how it could seem that way, if you haven't taken the time and trouble to acquaint yourself with the relevant data of the case.

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Isnt the whole thing that supposedly Obama was born outside of the US and therefore is ineligible to run for the presidency and so cannot be President. One of the ways to remove all doubt is if his birth certificate is shown (not from an Obama source because it could be doctored) or any other document that would be sufficent (eg a college enrolement form). So far this has not been done to any suffience level and so the stories go on.
I havent studied it in any detail but thats what ive picked up from the bbc and a few other places. I'm willing to be wrong on all of that.

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Funny Paper said

meanmistermustard said
Did Trump ever have to pay the $5m that he put up if Obama's birth certificate or college enrolement form was ever produced?
Never got this fascination in all of that, its just idiocy in my opinion. The same kind as those who were/are intent in believing that Paul was/is dead or Elvis was/is alive.

Yes, I can see how it could seem that way, if you haven't taken the time and trouble to acquaint yourself with the relevant data of the case.

Except I am well versed in birther talking points and it s insanity.

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Thanks Von Bontee. apple01

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mr. Sun king coming together said

Funny Paper said

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Did Trump ever have to pay the $5m that he put up if Obama's birth certificate or college enrolement form was ever produced?
Never got this fascination in all of that, its just idiocy in my opinion. The same kind as those who were/are intent in believing that Paul was/is dead or Elvis was/is alive.

Yes, I can see how it could seem that way, if you haven't taken the time and trouble to acquaint yourself with the relevant data of the case.

Except I am well versed in birther talking points and it s insanity.

Saying you are, and being, are not necessarily the same thing.

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Im sorry but Trump has now come out, said the result was a farce and tried to get people to march in Washington. Somehow the result was an injustice despite the people freely having their say. Obama won, get over it and work together to bring the country together by finding solutions to the issues that separate the nation.

 

I thought he was good in the Apprentice US but based on this and the Scottish Windmill/Golf Course strop he comes across as a pillock.

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So for something completely different (not that the birther debate doesn't have its conspiracy-theory charms):  my wife informs me that we're about to be a Nielson family.  Yes, folks in the US, what is available for you to watch on TV is about to be inordinately influenced by the likes of us:  white, middle class, childless baby boomers who time-shift nearly everything that we watch on television. 

We have some experience with this, by the way.  In the mid-80s we spent three years on the Nielson team.  Our viewing habits were undoubtedly responsible for the popularity of a whole slew of classic 80s shows.  Shows like...like...mmm...well, I can't actually remember the shows, but they must be classics!

So let me know if you've got a jones for a particular show that needs a rating boost -- maybe we can work out a deal.  As the Nielson compensation for our services is, I guess amusing would be the kind way to put it (we used to get two very crisp dollar bills with each diary that arrived in the mail -- I used to wonder whose job it was to stuff THOSE envelopes, stacks of uncirculated bills on one side, stacks of diaries and envelopes on the other), monetary donations would go a long way toward furthering your cause.

(If the Nielson police are now monitoring my posts, my donation solicitation here is a JOKE!  We feel that it is a privilege to do this work for you for free so that your company can make scads of cash from the fruits of our labor-- apparently all of it in stacks of fresh-from-the-mint $1 bills.)

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Wow, I didn't think the Nielson ratings had any relevence left in the age of Netflix and timeshifting and whatnot.

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BluemeanAl said
So for something completely different (not that the birther debate doesn't have its conspiracy-theory charms):  my wife informs me that we're about to be a Nielson family.  Yes, folks in the US, what is available for you to watch on TV is about to be inordinately influenced by the likes of us:  white, middle class, childless baby boomers who time-shift nearly everything that we watch on television. 

We have some experience with this, by the way.  In the mid-80s we spent three years on the Nielson team.  Our viewing habits were undoubtedly responsible for the popularity of a whole slew of classic 80s shows.  Shows like...like...mmm...well, I can't actually remember the shows, but they must be classics!

So let me know if you've got a jones for a particular show that needs a rating boost -- maybe we can work out a deal.  As the Nielson compensation for our services is, I guess amusing would be the kind way to put it (we used to get two very crisp dollar bills with each diary that arrived in the mail -- I used to wonder whose job it was to stuff THOSE envelopes, stacks of uncirculated bills on one side, stacks of diaries and envelopes on the other), monetary donations would go a long way toward furthering your cause.

(If the Nielson police are now monitoring my posts, my donation solicitation here is a JOKE!  We feel that it is a privilege to do this work for you for free so that your company can make scads of cash from the fruits of our labor-- apparently all of it in stacks of fresh-from-the-mint $1 bills.)

It seems like television and movies are being revolutionized by the new digital media, including phones and Internet.  There may come a day not to distant in the future when people won't "watch TV" or "go to the movies" anymore, but will simply dial up whatever they want to watch on their computer.  Similarly with music -- though music has the dimension of the live concert which probably can never be replaced. 

 

At the very least, you'd think the Nielsen organization would do its sampling via Internet; or are they still quaintly stuck in the 1950s?

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Good question...(and thanks, Nielsen, not Nielson -- I thought something looked wrong there).  It sounds like we are getting a diary, but I wasn't on the phone call.  I know that there are "people meters" of some sort, no idea how they work.  And how you watch shows (TV, computer, tablet, phone, direct feed to the brain, shadow puppets, whatever), when you watch (live, delayed, and for me at least, sometimes delayed by weeks or months), and stuff like channel-surfing, certainly renders the old model obsolete.  Even in the 80s we were time-shifting with our VCR, and that was not really adequately accounted-for then, IMO.

We used to have a meter on our television, which basically kept track of what times/how long the TV was on -- but not which channel and not whether anyone was watching (my wife is semi-home-bound and so one of our TVs is on all day long providing background noise for her, but she's not "watching" anything during most of that time).  On the diary we needed to account for all of those "on" hours, which was next to impossible.  We cheated the system at times, in that if the power went out, the meter reset itself to zero.  We had a lot of "power outages" (whoops!  Did this thing come unplugged again??) as a result so that we didn't need to fill in each and every 15 min block of time during the day.

The entire concept seems archaic, doesn't it?  Yet it still lives on, and so far, still "counts" when it comes to advertising dollars.  Given that I hate being surveyed and am likely to give an off-the-wall answer just to mess with the outcome of the survey, I'm probably not the best choice for this sort of thing.  Plus we're geezers now...advertisers really don't like us.  Whatever shows we watch will end up with a bunch of AARP, healthcare, and adult diaper commercials.

We'll see.

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