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GniknuS on National Defense Authorization Act

Sun, 18 Dec 2011 02:19:41 +0000

A number of good questions have been raised and I believe I can provide some answers. Sun King said that we shouldn't try to go insane here but that doesn't mean we shouldn't research the event. The points you guys have made are valid, that it would take an awful lot for whoever to pull this off, and my counter to that would be that this is exactly what whoever pulled the event off wants you to think so you don't really look into it.
To the point about Whitman, you have to consider that Wall Street was right around ...

mr. Sun king coming together on National Defense Authorization Act

Tue, 13 Dec 2011 02:56:01 +0000

Thanks. And, because everyone loves challenging laws in court, I have zero doubt that someone'll challenge the law as a circumvention of the ___ (insert number here) Amendment. If so many people challenged "Obamacare" (oh, how I hate that name), then someone'll sure as hell challenge this. At least our idiots are that close to power in Canada.

kedame on National Defense Authorization Act

Tue, 13 Dec 2011 02:34:30 +0000

mr. Sun king coming together said:

Look, I get that 9/11 is touchy. But we need to make sure we don't go to insane here. I believe (and no, I haven't done exhaustive research) that Bush knew about something, and said, "Ha, it's bullshit." I also believe that certain people heard, and tried to make precautions. But I don't believe the government either a) knowingly mislead the American People (including that EPA person) or that b) Bush ordered the buildings downed. And, btw, Asbestos isn't a cancer causing fiber on its own. That's a distinction that here is useless, but ...

The Walrus on National Defense Authorization Act

Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:29:30 +0000

GniknuS said:

Listen, Walrus, it's fine that you haven't done any legitimate research into 9/11 and are just basing this off of your beliefs, it's no big deal because you are in the majority. But please don't call me a fool because I have spent an enormous amount of time researching what happened and so I don't take it lightly.

I didn't actually say you were a fool, I said you were making yourself look like one and that it might lead to people who don't know that you aren't a fool thinking that you are one.

I have looked at a ...

mr. Sun king coming together on National Defense Authorization Act

Mon, 12 Dec 2011 03:37:40 +0000

Look, I get that 9/11 is touchy. But we need to make sure we don't go to insane here. I believe (and no, I haven't done exhaustive research) that Bush knew about something, and said, "Ha, it's bullshit." I also believe that certain people heard, and tried to make precautions. But I don't believe the government either a) knowingly mislead the American People (including that EPA person) or that b) Bush ordered the buildings downed. And, btw, Asbestos isn't a cancer causing fiber on its own. That's a distinction that here is useless, but still. And, also, if you want ...

GniknuS on National Defense Authorization Act

Mon, 12 Dec 2011 02:02:57 +0000

Listen, Walrus, it's fine that you haven't done any legitimate research into 9/11 and are just basing this off of your beliefs, it's no big deal because you are in the majority. But please don't call me a fool because I have spent an enormous amount of time researching what happened and so I don't take it lightly. I would love for you to go investigate the insider trading that occurred before and on the day itself and the $750 million of gold and silver that was in the process of being stolen from the basement of the World Trade ...

kedame on National Defense Authorization Act

Sun, 11 Dec 2011 03:04:28 +0000

unknown said:

I don't get why people are getting so mad over this, I really doubt it's going to go anywhere..

It already has went somewhere...it passed the Senate, and a provision to block the portion of the bill that is troublesome was voted down. It goes to the House again next, and then to the President if it passes there. There is a real chance it will go somewhere, which is why I am angry. The fact that so many congressmen think it is a necessary provision in and of itself pisses me off. It's a principle thing. It should ...

unknown on National Defense Authorization Act

Sun, 11 Dec 2011 01:32:56 +0000

I don't get why people are getting so mad over this, I really doubt it's going to go anywhere..

The Walrus on National Defense Authorization Act

Sun, 11 Dec 2011 01:27:33 +0000

GniknuS said:

The Walrus said:

I think it is highly likely that the US Government will once again place large amounts of explosive in four buildings, three of which are pretty much public buildings, without being noticed, somehow make four aeroplanes and their passengers disappear forever, create the illusion of aeroplanes flying into WTC 1 and 2 or else get thousands of people to claim they saw aeroplanes hit those buildings, doctor hundreds of hours of video footage showing planes hitting WTC 1 and 2 and the Pentagon, then detonate the explosives, killing hundreds of people and terrorising millions, then ...

meanmistermustard on National Defense Authorization Act

Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:01:25 +0000

Here's a report on a prison who has been held for 7 years in the uk yet never been put on trial. The BBC requested an interview but it was refused. There is an ongoing legal fight regarding his extradition to the US to face charges relating to terrorism, which Babar Ahmad has always denied.

One of the issues i have with politicians over here in the UK is that there is so much blame thrown around, 'its because of labour/conservations/liberals (delete as appropriate) that this has happened', yet no actual talk about how to tackle it. And the amount of back-tracking ...

seaglass eyes sunny smile on National Defense Authorization Act

Sat, 10 Dec 2011 18:02:38 +0000

Kedame, I agree. This totally goes against the Constitution.

Sun king, I for one am not just gonna sit down and complain. I'm not old enough to vote yet, but I've campaigned for candidates and I plan to go to DC voting rights marches in the future. There are hundreds of thousands of people living in my city, and none of us have a vote in Congress. I want to change that. I agree with you that there aren't enough people who are trying to "fix it"

kedame on National Defense Authorization Act

Sat, 10 Dec 2011 04:41:51 +0000

I don't hate politicians. I actually used to LOVE politics. I remember watching returns for the 2008 primaries giddy with excitement. (I was so hoping Hilary would win! I love the Clintons.) I think, however, as you get a little older, you see that nothing ever changes. When I was a teenager, politics seemed like fun. It was exciting because it was new to me. Now, however, that this is the fourth election that I am paying close attention to, I see the same shit over and over again. They all say the same things, and nothing ever gets done.

In ...

RedLennon on National Defense Authorization Act

Sat, 10 Dec 2011 04:39:04 +0000

mr. Sun king coming together said:

Kedame, you were SO not the person I meant to take my post personally. Honestly, it was a broad statement T the people who complain, but never do anything but sit on their couch and complain. But, (and this is to everyone) why do you spit out the word politician with such disguist? Politicians, for better or for worse, are representatives of the people. And honestly, I sometimes agree with the saying you get the politics you deserve. But, looking at this crazy Washington DC, what did the American People do to deserve this? ...

mr. Sun king coming together on National Defense Authorization Act

Sat, 10 Dec 2011 03:21:25 +0000

Kedame, you were SO not the person I meant to take my post personally. Honestly, it was a broad statement T the people who complain, but never do anything but sit on their couch and complain. But, (and this is to everyone) why do you spit out the word politician with such disguist? Politicians, for better or for worse, are representatives of the people. And honestly, I sometimes agree with the saying you get the politics you deserve. But, looking at this crazy Washington DC, what did the American People do to deserve this? That's the question I want to ...

RedLennon on National Defense Authorization Act

Fri, 09 Dec 2011 22:45:10 +0000

mr. Sun king coming together said:

If you hate this so much, FIX IT. I can't believe what I'm reading. Americans, the youth, are disenfranchised, and yet they just say "oh well". If the system is f***ed up, FIX IT. Run for councillor, or State rep, or Congressman. Do something. Instead of saying this is screwed, do something. Do you think you'd be Americans right now if George Washington just said, "Oh, the British are asses, but I'm too lazy to complain."? Of course not. The Tea Party, for all the things about it, shows they care. Same with Occupy. ...