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25 April 2011
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Okay, don't shoot me, but Zeppelin just doesn't cut it for me. Plant is a terrible singer, and that ruins it for me. I like Stairway to Heaven and Kashmir (EPIC RIFF), but no. It's not for me.

I tried to think of something powerful and moving… and failed.  "You were given a choice between war and dishonor - you chose dishonor, and you shall have war" - Winston Churchill
25 April 2011
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SINCE WHEN DID WE HAVE A ZEPPELIN THREAD????

 

Sun King you are missing out on some the greatest riffs of all time. Yes Kashmir has an epic riff, but there are so many others that call for great rock and roll. One of my favorite will forever be Whole Lotta Love. How Many More Times also has a killer riff. The song screams rock and roll. Led Zeppelin 4 is my favorite of their albums with When the Levee Breaks as my favorite song off the album (yes it beats out Stairway to Heaven). 

I enjoy the 10 minute guitar solos, the 30 minute drum solos, the 15 minute minute organ solos (God bless you Jonesy), and the ever going vocals sounds that sound like orgasms. Something about all these makes me want to wave a lighter in the air.

I do love the Who (I still find Bonzo a better drummer than Moon). The Who brought storytelling to hard rock. Tommy is glorious. Pete is a better storyteller/songwriter than Page/Plant. John Entwistle is a better bass player but Jonesy still holds close reign. I find it hard to compare Plant and Roger Daltrey mainly because they both epitimize 70s rock. They both know how to belt it out. (Listen to Reign O'er Me by the Who and tell me you don't like the way Roger sings. Since I've Been Loving You is one of Plant's best vocals in my opinion as well as guitar solos).

As for the Rolling Stones, they were able to capture both the 60s and 70s. I haven't listened to their stuff post Exile on Main Street except for a couple on Some Girls, but I feel like after 1972, studio quality songs went down. I may be wrong. The Stones live doesn't do much for me, but they still brought much energy that I appreciate. I do hold Jagger/Richards songwriting higher than Page/Plant. However, I do feel the whole package that is Led Zeppelin seems to weigh over more than the Who and the Stones. I do love all three bands.

I really can't comment on Pink Floyd's musicianship other than the fact DSotM is beyond flawless. I haven't heard any of their other albums. But I can say from what I know that they bring intellect to rock and roll. It's more than a couple chords and drum hits for them.

So what does this all mean? I love Led Zeppelin. Their music reigns different in my ears than of the Beatles. Zeppelin liked the Beatles especially Bonzo. He threw George in a pool. He's good in my book. Led Zeppelin loved the blues and reworked it into modern rock music. And for that I will gladly continue to let the led out.

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25 April 2011
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Nicely written, Penny.

My favorite Zep tunes are No Quarter, Rock and Roll and The Song Remains The Same (great rockumentary, BTW).

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25 April 2011
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I'm sorry, but Floyd sucks. No debate. In regard to Zepp, I don't know, vocals are so important that The Stones, the Who, and most other bands trump them. I love Page's guitar, and the drumming, but Joe said it best. Something like "I love them individually, but not what they did together.

Edit: I got the quote wrong. Here is the real quote:
Individually they were incredible musicians, I just hate the stuff they did together.

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25 April 2011
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Zig said:

a-hard-days-night-paul-6

Nicely written, Penny.

My favorite Zep tunes are No Quarter, Rock and Roll and The Song Remains The Same (great rockumentary, BTW).

Thank you Zig heart

The Song Remains the Same (the movie) took me a while to get used to. I was so confused by the weird non-performance scenes. But the performances are amazing. One of the reasons why I became a fan.

My fav Zeppelin songs: No Quarter, When the Levee Breaks, In My Time of Dying, Over the Hills and Far Away, Dazed and Confused, Stairway to Heaven, Ten Years Gone, Going to California, Stairway to Heaven, and Tangerine

 

Edit: In response to Sun King, I don't think Pink Floyd sucks. I just believe they are not a band that everyone can easily get into. It's easy to jump into the Stones. You listen to Satisfaction and there is literally nothing to it. But for Floyd, their music is not meant to a good pop song. How Another Brick in the Wall Part 2 got to #1 on the Billboard charts, I don't know.  They are a type of band who can't reach everyone unlike the Beatles. It took me a while to listen and get used to them. It wasn't smart of me to try to get into Pink Floyd by watching The Wall. Scarred me for a while to be quiet honest. But slowly I reached a liking for them.

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25 April 2011
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PennyLane said:

Thank you Zig heart

The Song Remains the Same (the movie) took me a while to get used to. I was so confused by the weird non-performance scenes. But the performances are amazing. One of the reasons why I became a fan.

My fav Zeppelin songs: No Quarter, When the Levee Breaks, In My Time of Dying, Over the Hills and Far Away, Dazed and Confused, Stairway to Heaven, Ten Years Gone, Going to California, Stairway to Heaven, and Tangerine

Yeah, the dream sequences are quite bizarre. My favorite non-performance scene is not a dream sequence but rather the scene where Peter Grant was lambasting the arena rep over some bootlegged items being sold in Madison Square Garden. I love listening to Brit's yell and swear. It's done with such eloquence it almost makes you want to get bitched out!

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25 April 2011
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Well, I listened to DSOTM, and I hated it, badly. But more power to you.

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25 April 2011
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Zig: I want to be bitched out in several languages/accents. English accent is one as well as in German and Russian. It sounds so much better than an American accent. But one of my favorite nonperformance scene is them just driving to New York and Bron-Yr-Aur plays in the background. I always found it quite nice. The movie always made me want to know about the money that was stolen. 

 

Sun King: It's ok for not liking it. To each is own. If you didn't like the Beatles, then we would have a problem. But thank god I don't have to worry about that a-hard-days-night-george-7

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That post up there was a good one, Pennylane. Though as far as the Stones go, there was some good studio material after Exile. As you mentioned, Some Girls was up there, and I really enjoy that album. "Beast of Burden", "Just My Imagination", "Respectable"…. lots of great tracks on there. Tattoo You had some good tracks too. You are right though, I think Exile was where the Stones turned the corner. Regardless, they're quite a spectacle live, and not only have their songs stood the test of time, but they have. They're touring again next year. I wouldn't be surprised if it's their last, so I am getting myself some good tickets for that hopefully. I had a lot of fun at the last one.

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26 April 2011
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JET! said:

That post up there was a good one, Pennylane. Though as far as the Stones go, there was some good studio material after Exile. As you mentioned, Some Girls was up there, and I really enjoy that album. "Beast of Burden", "Just My Imagination", "Respectable"…. lots of great tracks on there. Tattoo You had some good tracks too. You are right though, I think Exile was where the Stones turned the corner. Regardless, they're quite a spectacle live, and not only have their songs stood the test of time, but they have. They're touring again next year. I wouldn't be surprised if it's their last, so I am getting myself some good tickets for that hopefully. I had a lot of fun at the last one.

Thank you Jet! I really want to see them live. My dad said he would go with me if they ever tour again. He has seem them before in concert. He even met Ron Wood at a bar in New York. 

I will surely, but eventually, give post-Exile albums a try. I really do love the Rolling Stones. They will stand the test of time. Nearly 50 years together and they can still put present bands to shame.

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27 April 2011
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Well since this thread is about music we do and do not like, I have a confession to make…I think the Stones are beyond overrated. They have a smattering of good songs, but other than Keith Richards and Brian Jones no one was very talented in that band. I think they're alright, but when people say Stones vs. Beatles I think it's fairly laughable.
But anyway, I like Led Zeppelin but I listened to them too much as a teenager, if I ever had to hear the Lemon Song ever again I'd probably scream. I like Presence a lot still and Physical Graffiti.
Pink Floyd is pretty fantastic but you have to be into some of the freaky stuff.

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27 April 2011
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PennyLane said:

I will surely, but eventually, give post-Exile albums a try. I really do love the Rolling Stones. They will stand the test of time. Nearly 50 years together and they can still put present bands to shame.

thats not saying much!

But, what would say should be a Zeppelin starting point

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27 April 2011
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mr. Sun king coming together said:

PennyLane said:

I will surely, but eventually, give post-Exile albums a try. I really do love the Rolling Stones. They will stand the test of time. Nearly 50 years together and they can still put present bands to shame.

thats not saying much!

But, what would say should be a Zeppelin starting point

Well, Mothership is good start. It has the essential songs. It's their greatest hits album basically without it being their greatest hits (Zeppelin never had a chart topping song and never released singles in England. Therefore a greatest hit wouldn't be correct). But if you rather not go the way of the greatest hits album, I say listen to Led Zeppelin 4. 

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28 April 2011
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Much as I love Zep (a lot), I've gotta say that their live stuff (undoubtedly the true source of the "10-minute bore-a-thons that Joe complained about, since their entire studio output produced only 3 songs that crack the double-digit barrier) has very little appeal to me.  A huge portion of their greatness was their spectacular recordings, the sheer sound, Jimmy Page's sculpted layers of guitars, Bonzo's exquisitely mic'd drumkit, etc. To do justice to those songs live was, I think, as impossible a task as it would've been for the Beatles to perform Revolver or SPLHCB live.

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28 April 2011
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Von Bontee said:

Much as I love Zep (a lot), I've gotta say that their live stuff (undoubtedly the true source of the "10-minute bore-a-thons that Joe complained about, since their entire studio output produced only 3 songs that crack the double-digit barrier) has very little appeal to me.  A huge portion of their greatness was their spectacular recordings, the sheer sound, Jimmy Page's sculpted layers of guitars, Bonzo's exquisitely mic'd drumkit, etc. To do justice to those songs live was, I think, as impossible a task as it would've been for the Beatles to perform Revolver or SPLHCB live.

He was clearly exaggerating, but all bands did that live. CSNY did it, making two separate 4 minute songs into 15 minute a piece songs, with really long solos.

*9+9*, although I more think of Alice Cooper

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Yeah, a lot of bands really loved to sttrrretch things out in those days. (The drugs were a major factor!)

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28 April 2011
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Just like the Canucks?

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RANDOM FUN FACT: There is a street by my house that is named after Led Zepplin.

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29 April 2011
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Nigel the good dog said:

RANDOM FUN FACT: There is a street by my house that is named after Led Zepplin.

That is awesome.

If I ever get a pet, I might name it ZoSo. oh yeah! a-hard-days-night-john-6

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