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I read the news today (oh boy) - Current world events
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17 December 2013
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Here's a good one, "the Ringo analagy"!

There is a court case that has been going on the US about the NSA's collection of online data about people, and whether it breaks the US Constitution. A ruling was handed down today by Judge Richard Leon, deciding that it broke the fourth amendment. Obviously, it will be appealed, but this part of his ruling, responding to part of the NSA's defence, included this gem:

"The Government obviously wants me to infer that the NSA may not have collected records from Verizon Wireless (or perhaps any other [non-Verizon] entity, such as AT&T and Sprint. Curiously, the Government makes this argument at the same time it is describing in its pleadings a bulk metadata collection program that can function only because it 'creates a historical repository that permits retrospective analysis of terrorist-related communications across multiple telecommunications networks.' Put simply, the Government wants it both ways.

"To draw an analogy, if the NSA's program operates the way the Government suggests it does, then omitting Verizon Wireless, AT&T, and Sprint from the collection would be like omitting John, Paul, and George from a historical analysis of the Beatles. A Ringo-only database doesn't make any sense, and I cannot believe the Government would create, maintain, and so ardently defend such a system."

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11 March 2014
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As you likely know, Scotland will see a referendum later this year to decide if they remain a part of the United Kingdom. I would be very sad if they decide to leave. The Scots have always had a strange autonomy within the Union - different legal system for example, and have been given more in recent years with their own Parliament.

What really bugs me is how those who want independence want to have their cake and eat it! There is an argument over currency for instance. Though just a few years back they were declaring one of the arguments for independence was to get rid of the pound (sterling) because it was a yoke around their neck, now they want to keep it. But all the UK parties have said no to a currency union. Why would the rest of the UK want to stand as "lender of last resort" to an independent country? Especially considering we have refused to join the Euro.

They claim it would have no affect on movement of people, but what happens if the rest of the UK decides to leave the European Union in a couple of years (we are promised a referendum in 2017), and an independent Scotland stays part of it? Europe has free movement of people. Were we to leave, there would obviously need to be a border. You couldn't have people using Scotland as a borderless way to gain entry. Hadrian's Wall would be rebuilt.

I hate the way those arguing for independence are claiming they will get it as they want it, despite the rest of us saying that it won't be like that. Everybody keeps asking what their Plan B is, and they just keep denying one will ever needed, because we will accede to their wish list.

I don't think so!

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SatanHimself said
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So there's lots going on in the world lately.  To refresh this thread a little, please tell us something that's going on in your village, town, city, province, state, country on continent.

Here in Canada, we're dealing once again with the Province of Quebec and the issue of its sovereignty.  A very quick primer:  Quebec (in general) sees itself as a distinct French society that exists within the framework of the country of Canada.  And a bunch of them want to separate from our great land in order to solidify their identity and heritage.

On the plus side, they would solidify their identity and heritage.

On the negative side, they would essentially isolate the Eastern Provinces of New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia and Newfoundland.  And they want to continue to use all of Canada's resources and social programs.  And it would just wreck the awesomeness of Canada.

 

I love your last sentence!  Exactly!!  They would leave a big gaping hole in our country too and like you said, isolate the Eastern Provinces and vice versa.  This has been going on for decades with them (Quebec).  I think it would be a shame if they ever go, however, they cant have their cake and eat it too.  They want to "use" Canada when it suits them, but become independent.  

If they were to leave, would we remain a bilingual country?

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12 March 2014
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There's been a building collapse in Harlem, New York, following what looks like a gas explosion, leaving at least two dead.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/worl.....a-26549431

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12 March 2014
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meanmistermustard said
I'd be prone to say it crashed somewhere in the sea however the last message from the pilot (or co-pilot), just before it disappeared, was everything was fine and there was no mayday or anything before it went down which there should have been time for. Obviously there could have been a cataclysmic failure in the electrics wiping out the chance of such a call but it does seem strange.

 

The latest news is that possible debris of the plane could have been found in the South China Sea.

 

I find this story incredible with all our "modern-day-technology".  How does a plane disappear?

I was just reading the "latest" and they are saying the debris found in the South China Sea does not appear to be "plane debris"...but who knows? 

Quite the mystery!!

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