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AppleScruffJunior said

Annadog40 said
It seems like the only news people post here is about people dying. Negative murder press draws the eye and you all can’t look away.

 

I posted about a baby elephant being rescued from a well.

Everyone likes elephants 🙂

All I could think of when I read that was “Well well well, oh well” off Plastic Ono Band.

Well, here we are, just a few hours to go until we find out if the UK’s Labour Party has made itself irrelevant. A dreadful leadership election with, what looks like, a dreadful outcome. A lesson in how to make your party unelectable. I have only ever not voted Labour once in my life (and that was in a London Mayoral where the Labour man – Ken Livingstone – was not the Labour candidate). He soon became the Labour man again after winning.

This is a dreadful situation though. Jeremy Corbyn becomes Labour leader and I no longer have a party I can vote for. The Conservative Party will no longer have a national party of opposition, and we are condemned to Tory rule until at least 2025. I did not vote for Jeremy when I voted on Wednesday. I will not renew my party membership when it comes up should Jeremy, as looks likely, become leader.

Don’t get me wrong, I admire Jeremy, and many of his positions (though am appalled by others). I have seen enough in my life, however, to know my country will never elect a very left-wing Prime Minister. And so, if Labour have done what it looks like they have done, they have made themselves unelectable. The next General Election, if Corbyn has been elected, could see Labour wiped out and a resurgent Lib-Dems becoming the official opposition.

My vote will definitely go Lib-Dem if Corbyn is declared Labour leader in just over twelve hours.

^^ Hope they do get someone from the left-wing; for too long now Labour here has been drifting towards the center and sounding more and more right-wing. Let people suffer long enough under a Conservative government and they will begin to see how much they need a party that actually cares for people and not for themselves.

If not, well, I guess UK people get what they deserve.

meanmistermustard said
Out of interest why do they keep allowing Blair to raise his head, its like what happened with the Tories and Peter Mandelson? Most of the country think he’s a liar, others also want to see him tried for war crimes.

Ooh, James Corbyn has said Blair should stand trial over the illegal war in Iraq according to the Guardian.

Same reason the scuzzball Clintons keep popping up I guess?

Let’s argue for years about the definition of genocide while millions of helpless people get slaughtered.

No, @trcanberra, you’re wrong, get over it!

Seriously, though, here is the fault line in how this election has been run, JC (what initials!) could actually win this without having won over the majority of Labour Party members. He could win on this on the basis of Union affiliate members and £3 “supporters”.

Surely the job of a leadership election is to elect someone you believe could win the top job. That is the job of political parties, to be electable. I doubt there are many of those who have voted for Corbyn who believe he can be the next Prime Minister.

Too far to the left, too far to the right, you stand no chance anywhere but a panicking, and failing, democracy.

The middle is where the majority, left or right, are.

Corbyn will be a disaster for UK politics, and for UK democracy. That cannot be applauded.

He has voted against the leadership over 500 times, how can he possibly expect any loyalty from the backbenches? A party divided is unelectable. And a Corbyn-led Labour party would be unelectable. I want an electable Labour party.

^^ I still think people need an alternative that is actually different from the party in power – the parties here are virtually indistinguishable nowadays in their idiocy and inhumanity.