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I read the news today (oh boy) - Current world events
30 August 2013
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I just noticed we don't have a thread about what's going on in the world.  It seems like the least we could do while we're here is pay attention to the news a little.

 

I'll get it started.  Remember the Fukushima nuclear power plant?  Seems like that problem just went away a long time ago, huh?

Nope.  In fact, there is an active news blackout about it.  Go ahead...  Go to any news site and try finding a story about it without have to use the "search" option...

Well, apparently for the last year it has been in a total uncontrolled meltdown which the power company TEPCO has been trying to cover up.  80,000 gallons (300,000 litres) of highly irradiated water has leaked into the Pacific Ocean.  And it's only getting worse:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/s.....-leak.html

http://globalpublicsquare.blog.....you-think/

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/s.....royed.html

 

Sorry to start off with such a grim one.  I just figure that when people start talking about a crisis potentially becoming an Extinction-Level Event, it merits some discussion.

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30 August 2013
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There has been mainstream coverage of the situation in the UK, including a BBC reporter visiting the site.

Could be a good idea for a thread, though I tend to use the "Thread that can't be derailed" when I want to comment on things, as I did at the beginning of the week when I commented on the Syria situation.

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31 August 2013
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There has been almost nothing in the North American media.  To the point that you have to wonder why there seems to be all this effort going into NOT covering it, when it seems unlikely that anyone will profit off of the public's ignorance of this.

 

This thread I guess also serves as a nice way for people to talk about their own local and regional issues that wouldn't make the news elsewhere.

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31 August 2013
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I kind of think that is the whole problem of American news media though. Something like Fox News could not exist in the UK because we have rules about lack of bias in broadcast journalism. We have free speech in the UK, but we demand responsibilities of those who exercise it. The American Constitution is in many ways great but, as Lennon once said about Christ's disciples, the "thick and ordinary" twisted it to serve their own needs. It is interesting that it is my country that is challenging Rupert Murdoch about his practices.

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31 August 2013
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One story that deserves comment is the Cambridge Hospital that has fast food on sale (burgers, pizza) and has a contract that runs until 2024, yes there are healthier options but surely this is a stupid set-up. So much for the fight against obesity. Whoever signed such a stupid deal needs their own hospital treatment.

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31 August 2013
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Fox News is really just as biased as pretty much any other news channel here. I think it's just because Fox News is biased on the opposite side every other channel is and that's why they're most recognized as being biased. 

And about what mmm said, it's pretty common for fast food places to be in hospitals. I think it's stupid for hospitals to serve such bad food, but the article said they also have healthy food options. I think everybody knows most fast food is no good, so what the pepole choose to eat is their problem, not the hospital's. Everybody's fight against obesity is their fight and theirs alone. Healthy food in hospitals would be great, but people would be in the hospital a week, go home, and go back to eating garbage anyways. 

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31 August 2013
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Great title for this thread!

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31 August 2013
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With food as it is in my local hospital/s, I think even I would be tempted to eat fast food - and I haven't been inside a McDonald's for over three years.

In a way, it is up to people to decide for themselves what they want to eat, but the goverment is supposed to be trying to create a healthier nation. By having this food on offer in a public place like a hopsital (which makes it so ironic), they're basically saying ''actually, we don't care if obesity costs the taxpayers millions and millions of pounds every year''. Shocking.

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31 August 2013
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With all these fast food debates one thing has peed me off - everyone's thinking about overweight people. Now don't get me wrong, it's a health issue for overweight people, but many people are forgetting that there are underweight people too. Even though they aren't particularly the best foods for weight gain when I needed to put some weight on and get up to my calorie limit a quick burger would do the trick. And now that they're imposing all these regulations it means the sometimes underweight people like me have to eat more quantity rather than quality just to get the needed amounts.

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31 August 2013
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^ I'm no expert, so correct me if I'm completely wrong but if you're underweight, is it not better to fill up on meats, pulses, greens and protein/fibre-rich food? Food that provides you with plenty of calories, as well as "good" fats and other nutrients essential to our diet?
I agree, though, that we are neglecting those who are underweight. It's just that, unfortunately, obesity is prioritized because it's the bigger drain on our resources.

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31 August 2013
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Yes obesity is a battle for the individual but it is also a battle for the country where its a massive burden on the health system, to have these places (and its not a burger on a menu but a fast foot establishment, there is a huge difference) in hospitals is sending out the wrong message and putting temptation where it shouldn't be, not only for visitors but also patients who can move about.

Im also sure that as fabfouremily said its the wrong type of fats and other things, there is little of substantial benefit aside from a quick dose of calories. However there is nothing wrong with the odd burger here and there, same as the occasional fish supper or pizza, its also about exercise and your daily and weekly diet.

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31 August 2013
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meanmistermustard said
...its not a burger on a menu but a fast foot establishment...

I love a good fast foot establishment! ahdn_george_07a-hard-days-night-john-6a-hard-days-night-george-2

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31 August 2013
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mja6758 said

meanmistermustard said
...its not a burger on a menu but a fast foot establishment...

I love a good fast foot establishment! ahdn_george_07a-hard-days-night-john-6a-hard-days-night-george-2

 

Going by the taste of some of these places wouldn't surprise me if foot was used. If we can get horse in a burger why not a foot?a-hard-days-night-paul-3

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31 August 2013
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LikeASir said
With all these fast food debates one thing has peed me off - everyone's thinking about overweight people. Now don't get me wrong, it's a health issue for overweight people, but many people are forgetting that there are underweight people too. Even though they aren't particularly the best foods for weight gain when I needed to put some weight on and get up to my calorie limit a quick burger would do the trick. And now that they're imposing all these regulations it means the sometimes underweight people like me have to eat more quantity rather than quality just to get the needed amounts.

I'm sorry, but this makes no sense to me. Are you really saying that fast food is good to have in hospitals? Wouldn't you rather eat more of something that's good for you than one hamburger that's really bad? And I think the reason people were only thinking about obesity is because fast food causes obesity, it doesn't make people underweight (and it doesn't help anybody).

 

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31 August 2013
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LikeASir said
...when I needed to put some weight on and get up to my calorie limit a quick burger would do the trick...

I don't object to fast food, once or twice a week - depending on the week, but was that a dietician's recommendation? I doubt it. They would probably say bad way to put on weight, and bad way to fulfill calorie demands... just a thought.

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31 August 2013
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The issue of Marijuana legalization / decriminalization has made the news quite a bit lately here in Canada, as some of our most prominent politicians have happily admitted using it in the not-too-distant past.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2.....43688.html

I've always found this an interesting issue, because the primary reason for it being illegal is the fact that so many agencies, corporations and people make a LOT of money keeping it illegal.  

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31 August 2013
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Fast food once or twice a week, mark? actually seems like quite a lot to me.
I would have thought that if you want to put on weight quickly then eating lots of ff would do it - those "empty calories" will hit your bloodstream so quickly, you'll need more food 2-3 hours later. So more calories then. Any nutritionist or dietician will tell you, though, that that isn't a very good way to do it.
Moving on.... I find it quite interesting that politicians out there in Canada are so open about using it. I'm all for it - if tobacco is legal then cannabis should be too in my opinion, but I thought that they would at least try and hide it.

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31 August 2013
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fabfouremily said
Fast food once or twice a week, mark? actually seems like quite a lot to me.

I'm more responsible now. Back when I was at college lunch was the McDonalds in Croydon!

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31 August 2013
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fabfouremily said

Moving on.... I find it quite interesting that politicians out there in Canada are so open about using it. I'm all for it - if tobacco is legal then cannabis should be too in my opinion, but I thought that they would at least try and hide it.

Well, it's not a question of "using it" in the present-tense sense. They all "admit to using it in the past", either a lot or a little. But none of them will say they're still toking up on a regular or infrequent occurrence, or have any plans to. It's just not in a politician's nature - it's like them saying "sure, I love my beer. And I'm probably gonna get wrecked in the near future - probably next month, I'm attending an old friend's wedding!" - almost unimaginable. Plus, most of the ones who were even regular users probably gave it up long ago. I don't imagine hardcore politics attracts pot enthusiasts much, at least not ones who expect to be successful. Aside from the ones who get into politics for the very purpose of changing marijuana legislation, that is.

So why are they owning up all of a sudden? Well, I'd like to hope and believe that it's because they see the way the (smoke-filled) winds are blowing - that they can sense that limited decriminalization (if not full legalization) is looking more and more plausible. That the general age of the electorate has reached a point where a wide swath of it - like, anyone from ages 20 to 70 or thereabouts - is likely to have encountered marijuana at some point in their lives; and that many of them are liable to be favourable or at least indifferent to the stuff. Not to mention favourably dispatched towards politicians who have admitted using (and even LIKING!) it.

Note that even Prime Minster Harper (a Conservative), when asked if HE'D ever smoked pot, kinda hedged his bets with his answer. He denied it, yes; but instead of making a strong *law & order* statement, like "No, I never have smoked marijuana. Because it is WRONG, and it is the law of our land!", he gives the intriguingly non-judgemental and merely pragmatic excuse that he suffers from asthma, which precludes him smoking ANYTHING. (Somebody give that man a couple of pot brownies!)

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I thought Obama's speech was very good, and his decision to go to Congress brave (especially considering what happened here in London this week).

I do hate all these claims being made about America being the world's oldest modern democracy though. What utter rot! The United Kingdom became a Constitutional Monarchy in 1660, with power ceded to an Elected Parliament. America was only just being founded at the time.

Yes, it can be argued about the degree of Universal Suffrage, but if Universal Suffrage is the measure, it can be argued that the United States has been a democracy for less than fifty years - only truly becoming one in the 1960s with the passing of its Civil Rights legislation. In this week of remembering Martin Luther King Jnr. and the March on Washington, American politicians should not be jumping up and down claiming to be the world's oldest modern democracy. Tell that to all those who were murdered attempting to give the Afro-American population the vote within some of our lifetime's.

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