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Forrest Gump
19 December 2010
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StarWisher
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Oh, I know there are people out there who love nothing more but to stalk a series of videos with the same subject and just troll about.

I think the last time I was on anything Beatles-related like this was ages ago on rec.music.beatles, which could also split into factions given certain topics.

Glad it seems that here is not that kind of place. a-hard-days-night-ringo-9

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19 December 2010
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To be honest, I don't like Forrest Gump movie that much. Some scenes are like "Oh come on…"l. It's not my kind of movie. But I truly believe that Tom Hanks and Gary Sinese performances are wonderful. When it's on TV, I like to watch when both are on the screen.

Now, If I want to make The Beatles – Tom Hanks connection, I think of this movie.  I rented it to Mom when it was released, and I remember she hushed me a lot because I was saying out loud the Beatle references a-hard-days-night-john-5

 

 

Edit : Wow!! It's been a while since I saw this movie and that video brought me back nice memories of it!! Now I know what my next video to rent is!!

 

And sorry for kind of .. derailing this topic a-hard-days-night-george-10

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19 December 2010
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Thanks everyone, I've enjoyed the dialogue.

I have to conclude that it wasn't the Lennon estate that owned the rights to that clip with John in FG because I don't think they would have allowed the tampering.

For me, when I saw the movie in a packed theater, the moment resonated.  I liked FG's "eulogy" for John.

As a teacher who is pretty distressed about the lack of even basic historical knowledge not just among students but the general public, my concern is not so much about movies like FG (and Oliver Stone's JFK, which lots of people accept as The Truth), but that for some people, what they learn about Vietnam and the civil rights movement doesn't go far beyond what they see in movies like FG.

Most of my students (I teach college freshmen at the University of Kansas, predominantly) don't get serious, indepth knowledge about Vietnam and the civil rights movement until they are in classes like mine--please don't take that as me congratulating myself.  On the contrary, I'm just scratching the surface, but many of them don't even know the surface, much less what's beneath.

That's not the filmmakers' fault, they should have complete artistic freedom.  But audiences have responsibilities to educate themselves as widely as they can.

As we saw, tragically, with JFK, MLK, Malcolm X, John L, and too many others, changing history for real, not like in the movies, is dangerous work.two-virgins

19 December 2010
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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8Wow now that's an interesting post!!

 

As a teacher, I totally agree with you. The problem is that the education system (at least in my country) sucks big time. The kids are not getting the education they are supposed to, they don't know a damn thing about history, and they're failing in basic subjects like Math and Spanish. There's a lot to do. And it's easy to blame TV and Internet.

 

About that Forrest Gump scene, you're right, what Forrest says is nice, but I feel like… I dunno. I think they say "Hey we have footage of JOhn Lennon, why don't we include him in the movie??". I'm sure that's not the real story. Again, it's just not my kind of movie.

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19 December 2010
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Yeah, I love That Thing You Do as well, and like you, I always pay attention to the references: Shades the drummer, the "accidental" speeding up of a ballad that becomes their first number 1, "Sorry, girls, he's engaged!".

Someone elsewhere made mention that Tom Hanks plays a manager who is in fact a closeted gay man. Maybe it was too subtle that I didn't catch it, and I haven't seen the movie in ages, but is that the case?

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19 December 2010
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There's a huge difference between revisionist history like JFK and the historical perspective of Forrest Gump.  JFK is trying to spin history.  Forrest Gump is showing the tragedy of events in a comical way through the eyes of mentally retarded man.  I think students can tell the difference.

19 December 2010
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I'd read somewhere that Forrest Gump was supposed to be a metaphor for the baby boomers who were kind of stumbling through life, and yet all around them all these significant events were happening around them.

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20 December 2010
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Funny how half of these "All Together Now" threads always end up becoming Beatles-related! (I'm as much to blame as anybody, I know, obviously, gratuitously inserting a picture of John Lennon with prominent "Safe As Milk" decals into my Captain Beefheart thread, for one thing…)

I liked "That Thing You Do" too – just wished they'd played the title song less than two dozen times during the course of the film.

I just want to play. I’d like to think I could work opposite Sinatra, B.B. King, the Beatles, or a polka band... - Jazz musician Rahsaan Roland Kirk, 1967
20 December 2010
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vonbontee said:

I liked "That Thing You Do" too – just wished they'd played the title song less than two dozen times during the course of the film.


I know what you mean, but they really wanted to drive home the point they were one-hit Wonders. :) And drive it they did. Into your skull. :)

 

Didn't they play another song when they were the "house band" in that beach movie? (A small reprieve…)

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20 December 2010
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You're certainly right about the lack of education, or interest really, when it comes to history among the younger generation. The problem is that we've been given these tools to make learning easier, calculators, the internet, TV, etc., but rather than helping, those tools basically erase curiosity because history is just taken at base value. We accept answers without questioning them and so our education is based off of memorization rather than critical thinking. I went to a public high school and I can tell you that I was pretty unprepared when I went to college, but now, only a few years later, it's even worse because there are entire classes devoted to giving the answers to the graduation tests now needed. Think about that, an entire class devoted to just giving away the answers versus actually teaching, but as long as graduation rates go up or stay about the same no one will really care because it will be seen as "progress." It's a joke and the worst part of it is that these people who receive these "educations" have no idea of how ignorant and uneducated they really are because of how bad their education was. Their education was so bad that they have no way of realizing how bad it really was, it's genius really from the perspective of those who are keeping the population under control with these awful educations.

The only way our education system has any chance of improving is if grammar, logic and rhetoric, or the trivium, are taught in our schools.

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20 December 2010
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Another interesting post Gniknus. This is great.

 

I have to say I agree with you. I thought those tests were given only in Mexico, but it seems it's worldwide. Maybe we focus too much in the results and not in the learning process. Both are important.

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20 December 2010
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Exactly, if those results aren't actually comprehended, then no real learning takes place. We need to teach how to learn before we can expect kids to actually learn because this is the result.

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