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18 September 2012
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Forthly the more people find out the more jump on the bandwagon and pretend they have loved them all along whilst knowing nothing. The band/artist (if still going) begin to put their more nowfound popularity before their music and sell out becoming a parody of who they were, something you hate. You stop liking that band/artist.

 

You hear it a lot actually and the same thing was felt by the early beatles fans who were Cavern dwellers. There is an interview with a female fan who says that as soon as Please Please Me was a #1 they knew The Beatles would become more famous and that closeness would be gone, the feeling of togetherness, unity and personalness. And they were right.

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18 September 2012
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meanmistermustard said
There is an interview with a female fan who says that as soon as Please Please Me was a #1 they knew The Beatles would become more famous and that closeness would be gone, the feeling of togetherness, unity and personalness. And they were right.

Right...Cathy. I always feel so sad for her when I watch the Anthology DVD's.

She says something like, "let the rest of the country enjoy them...as long as they come back to us once in a while".

The rest of the country? If she only knew!

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18 September 2012
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Zig said

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There is an interview with a female fan who says that as soon as Please Please Me was a #1 they knew The Beatles would become more famous and that closeness would be gone, the feeling of togetherness, unity and personalness. And they were right.

Right...Cathy. I always feel so sad for her when I watch the Anthology DVD's.

She says something like, "let the rest of the country enjoy them...as long as they come back to us once in a while".

The rest of the country? If she only knew!

Does anyone know when that interview with Cathy took place? If it was before their last Cavern performance (cant remember when that was) then they did go back every once in a while for a while.

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19 September 2012
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Ben Ramon said 

Are you alright, Mr Sun King? In several recent discussions you have been uncharacteristically belligerent over small matters (which may warrant discussion or even debate, but not to such a heated extent).

I'm okay. I guess I'm just slightly more... susceptible to being belligerent. I do admit to being less then gentlemanly upthread (and in the other threads to which you refer). I'll be more respectful.

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19 September 2012
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meanmistermustard said 

Does anyone know when that interview with Cathy took place? If it was before their last Cavern performance (cant remember when that was) then they did go back every once in a while for a while.

Both the anniversary and the interview took place on August 3rd, 1963.

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19 September 2012
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mr. Sun king coming together said

meanmistermustard said 

Does anyone know when that interview with Cathy took place? If it was before their last Cavern performance (cant remember when that was) then they did go back every once in a while for a while.

Both the anniversary and the interview took place on August 3rd, 1963.

What anniversary? Do you mean last performance? Would surely be a coincidence a tv company being there on the night of their last cavern show as i dont think anyone knew at the time. Did they?

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15 December 2012
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Popularity doesn't matter to me at all. I'm not popular, and I honestly don't care, because I know I'm going to be more successful than all those people who throw their souls away to be popular. As for music, a lot of people don't like the Beatles, and those same people are listening to Avenged Sevenfold and AC/DC. People (in my school, at least) think it's cooler if you go deaf in two years than if you listen to "hippies".

"I'd tell her I love her, but she'd only reject me in the end and I'd be frustrated. That's why I play guitar; it's my active compensatory factor" -Ringo said something like this once, I changed it up a bit.
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Popularity doesn't matter to me at all. I'm not popular, and I honestly don't care, because I know I'm going to be more successful than all those people who throw their souls away to be popular. As for music, a lot of people don't like the Beatles, and those same people are listening to Avenged Sevenfold and AC/DC. People (in my school, at least) think it's cooler if you go deaf in two years than if you listen to "hippies".

Sounds to me like somebody's a little jealous of the popular kids, and that's why you tell yourself you will be more successful than them.

Popularity doesn't matter to me, but I really only listen to popular music. I just wouldn't go out of my way to find some band I like that not many people know, it doesn't make a difference to me. I listen to artists that aren't popular among people my age, or my mom's age, but they're still popular (Sinatra, Dino, CSN, Four Seasons..). There are some people who say all popular nowadays music is garbage, and I think that's daft. Yeah, you're so cool because you don't listen to nowadays pop music, what a deviant person you are. Nobody cares! You don't dig the music, it's not your taste, but to dismiss it all as garbage is ignorant.

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8What's there to be jealous of? All the popular kids I know have criminal background. I'm probably the cleanest kid in school. Call me what you will, but I have more options than they do because of my choices. They can keep their orgies, I have my music. Perhaps the kind of music people listen to has an effect on their behavior? I wonder...

But I did not call the music today "garbage", I only said that it isn't my style. I am a sixties kid at heart, so it's hard for me to listen to it. As for the people who do listen to those bands, I was only pointing out an observation I had made. 

"I'd tell her I love her, but she'd only reject me in the end and I'd be frustrated. That's why I play guitar; it's my active compensatory factor" -Ringo said something like this once, I changed it up a bit.
19 December 2012
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Since folks read youtube heres a new one to go to.

Was on itunes and got to the beatles section (they have a promotion on the albums and you can watch the remastered Ticket To Ride video from Help! (which i did)) and reading the reviews (i always find it interesting to see what they are yet take no real notice of them (hey i look at beatles cds in shops and i have them all)). Turns out that Revolver, Abbey Road and Pepper all get 4 1/2 rating and Taylor Swift's Red (first one i picked at random - she the big thing at the moment i believe) gets a 5.

No idea what all that means, probably absolutely nothing, but find it interesting. Doubt anyone else does and why am i posting this?

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21 December 2012
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Forgive me if there's anything in my reply that already has been said. I didn't really feel like reading 3 pages.

Most ''popular'' people I know aren't even liked well by others. They're just popular because they're arrogant and agressive.

 

I myself never really cared for popularity. I was always an outsider and I was fine with that. I had enough friends to have a good social life. It already started in 7th grade, because I wore clothes that were considered uncool and weird. I wore coloured jeans and big bows in my hair. That's when I knew it was okay to be ''weird''. I mean, how stupid are you when you dislike people for their clothes? Not saying that's how all popular kids are, but the ones I know are. You weren't cool unless you were rich and played hockey.

 

As for music, of course the Beatles aren't getting unpopular. They're still one of the, if not the most, influential bands ever. It's so long ago though, of course a lot of people don't know them. Not all parents listen to the Beatles and raise their kids with their taste and not all kids like their parents taste. So even though I hate it to say, but it's kinda logic acts like Taylor Swift are a bit more popular right now. That's what's in. A lot of popular music sucks, like One Direction or Bieber of course, but there's also a lot of modern popular music that's great, like Muse, Coldplay, Mumford and Sons, the Killers..they're all bands I like very much.

 

So popular doesn't always mean crap, but it's just what's in fashion at the moment. It's a hype.

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but there's also a lot of modern popular music that's great, like Muse, Coldplay, Mumford and Sons, the Killers..they're all bands I like very much.

 

So popular doesn't always mean crap, but it's just what's in fashion at the moment. It's a hype.

Exactly, there was always crap but only good quality music stands out after years. I would like to add Arctic Monkeys and Radiohead, RHCP etc.. (though last two bands are formed in 90's and 80's, still rockin' great music).

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21 December 2012
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I love those bands too, I actually love a lot of modern bands, but if I had to write them all down it'd take a long time so I just mentioned 3 of them.

 

That's right. There has always been crap music, even back in the 60s and 70s there was crap.

21 December 2012
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meanmistermustard said
Since folks read youtube heres a new one to go to.

Was on itunes and got to the beatles section (they have a promotion on the albums and you can watch the remastered Ticket To Ride video from Help! (which i did)) and reading the reviews (i always find it interesting to see what they are yet take no real notice of them (hey i look at beatles cds in shops and i have them all)). Turns out that Revolver, Abbey Road and Pepper all get 4 1/2 rating and Taylor Swift's Red (first one i picked at random - she the big thing at the moment i believe) gets a 5.

No idea what all that means, probably absolutely nothing, but find it interesting. Doubt anyone else does and why am i posting this?

That really doesn't mean anything. I think a lot of the Beatles reviews are about the quality of the remasters and not the actual music.

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EDSLocklear said
a-hard-days-night-ringo-8What's there to be jealous of? All the popular kids I know have criminal background. I'm probably the cleanest kid in school. Call me what you will, but I have more options than they do because of my choices. They can keep their orgies, I have my music. Perhaps the kind of music people listen to has an effect on their behavior? I wonder...

But I did not call the music today "garbage", I only said that it isn't my style. I am a sixties kid at heart, so it's hard for me to listen to it. As for the people who do listen to those bands, I was only pointing out an observation I had made. 

Criminal backgrounds? Guess the schools we go to are way different then, because the kids with criminal backgrounds at my school are all the weird kids who do a lot of drugs and have been in some kind of in patient or out patient.

The second part of my post was not directed at you. You didn't say anything bad about nowadays music, that's just something I hear from other people pretty often.

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21 December 2012
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Popularity seems important in high school, but once you leave, you realize that you wasted your time. I was never popular, but I tutored popular kids in math and science. They were distracted by unnecessary drama, and did not understand the importance of good grades until they applied to colleges.

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I wouldn't let a song's popularity sway me (though it may get me to listen.)

Having said that, on some level I give anyone credit who can write a popular song.

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The whole 'being popular' has always fascinated me. I will never understand why we as human beings need so much attention. We always hear about the fifteen minutes of fame and what some lengths people will go through to be noticed. Adulation is another tough subject for me. What is truly important is to learn who you are and be yourself. We need to love life and remember the cup is half full and not half empty no matter how tough things can get and it can get very tough on a day by day basis. We need to set the example for others. 

Regarding popularity in songs, I feel you should always write what you truly believe and not to just get a hit song. It is important to be true to your feelings and beliefs and if you are only into writing for the attention and money so be it. This is just not for me. 

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