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Does popularity matter?
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SatanHimself said
Popularity only ever matters in high school.


Look at the things that are popular right now:  Bad pop music, mediocre movies and untalented TV "reality" stars.


I think it can reasonably be said that Elvis is far more popular than the Beatles ever will be.  But that's no indication of quality.  I know I've railed against Elvis before, but let's face facts:  His output was 90% utter crap and the other 10% was done mostly within the confines of a 3-year period.

If anything, popularity is quite often an indication of a *lack* of quality.  I think the Beatles gained popularity against all odds.


Well, I don't if Elvis is more popular, to be honest. Everyone knows songs such as "Hound Dog" or "Love Me Tender" from him, but really, how many songs would an average (non-American) person name that he has performed? Well, I don't know, but I'm positive most people know more Beatles songs than they do Elvis'. That is because his image is more famous than his music; think of Elvis, and this fat guy in white jumpsuit with sun-glasses pops into your mind. In collective mind, Beatles is much less refined; moptops and collarless suits? Definitely not as eye-catching as Elvis.

In conclusion, I think Elvis is more well-known as an icon and performer, but musically, I think the Beatles still has more fans

( a-hard-days-night-john-7I did a very scientific study, as well, I googled "beatles fan" and "elvis fan" and beatles fans won by a clear margin of 300k)

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mr. Sun king and co.

Kindly allow me to be the snotty, self-possessed yankee 'Merican so rudely intruding on this thoughtful discourse, as us yanks are wont to do, and reply/comment to certain individuals who have posted, whilst hopefully maintaining interest for the others who would rather I crawl back into my redneck hideaway trailer in the foothills:

The term 'Popularity' really shouldn't apply to Elvis or The Beatles, as popularity itself merely means 'of the moment'. Lonnie Donnegan was popular, along with "Rock Island Line" and skiffle music at that time they were popular; Cliff Richard and The Shadows were popular, very popular, when they were consistently dominating the Pop Music Charts, for at least a few years if I've remembered from text properly, before your sort invented a super-group to lead an invasion into my country and change musical history.

It's the 'tense' in how the word 'popular' should be used: how do you fine Beatle admirers ignore the sheer significance of Mr Lennon's own terminology? "The Beatles are more popular than Jesus Christ?"

They were more popular than Jesus Christ, then .

In 1966, world-wide Census polls, ranging with questions from how many times a day does one defecate to how satisfied with your political leaders are you, concluded in written data that, when shown images of Jesus Christ alongside, or amongst others, with images of The Beatles, more people were able to identify The Beatles than they were of Jesus, Elvis, Churchill, or any other past or currently living individual(s) in history, at that time, 'PAST-tense'

Right, then to the actual Topic:

Does popularity (and, by the same token, longevity) matter? Does it make a song better or worse if it is popular?

O. J. Simpson was the most popular man on Earth the day his "Not Guilty" verdict came in;

Adolph Hitler was extremely popular throughout World War II.

'Popular' is not automatically a good word, or a positive reference.

Longevity of Popularity is where we need to start over.

As to the 2nd question: subjectively, "better or worse" is irrelevant.


p.s. hi


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