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17 July 2010
12.00am
Clayton Counts
A Beginning
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First of all, I wasn't sure who had written this.  I just knew for a fact that none of our contributors would plug us on this website.  Second, I had an idea who it was, so I wrote him an email and asked him to clarify his remarks, and, after he had done so, I still felt as though some things hadn't been covered to my satisfaction.  Third, I wasn't looking to guilt trip him.  I just want for him – and everyone else – to know that when someone asks if you're in a band, and you say, "I really wouldn't say it's my band exactly," you're IMPLYING that it's your band, inexactly.  And when you go on to talk about how you've "helped" with "songs," these words carry a specific meaning in people's minds.

 

I'm not criticizing anyone for giving us a free plug.  To the contrary, I am delighted that some people care enough about our music to bother.  We're not assholes about letting people contribute to our project, either, but the automatic assumption on behalf of one of your administrators was to question whether the original poster was in the band, simply because he expressed an interest in such an outré venture.  The ensuing conversation wherein MrBig asserted a direct affiliation with the band when none existed is reason enough for me to say what I did.  In the future, however, I will be certain to use my personal email to communicate my displeasure with an already public discussion related to my work.

 

In brief, classy or not, stick it.

17 July 2010
12.37am
MrBig
Rapture, Atlantic Ocean
Apple rooftop
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Clayton Counts said:

First of all, I wasn't sure who had written this.  I just knew for a fact that none of our contributors would plug us on this website.  Second, I had an idea who it was, so I wrote him an email and asked him to clarify his remarks, and, after he had done so, I still felt as though some things hadn't been covered to my satisfaction.  Third, I wasn't looking to guilt trip him.  I just want for him – and everyone else – to know that when someone asks if you're in a band, and you say, "I really wouldn't say it's my band exactly," you're IMPLYING that it's your band, inexactly.  And when you go on to talk about how you've "helped" with "songs," these words carry a specific meaning in people's minds.

 

I'm not criticizing anyone for giving us a free plug.  To the contrary, I am delighted that some people care enough about our music to bother.  We're not assholes about letting people contribute to our project, either, but the automatic assumption on behalf of one of your administrators was to question whether the original poster was in the band, simply because he expressed an interest in such an outré venture.  The ensuing conversation wherein MrBig asserted a direct affiliation with the band when none existed is reason enough for me to say what I did.  In the future, however, I will be certain to use my personal email to communicate my displeasure with an already public discussion related to my work.

 

In brief, classy or not, stick it.


Yeah, people listen. I know this from experience: Don't fuck with Clayton Counts. He will win, EVERY TIME. Take this from me, I know best.
"The best band? The Beatles. The most overrated band? The Beatles."
17 July 2010
10.53am
GiantSeaPanda
New Zealand
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I think I find the length a bit of a barrier. Listening to something like this for a couple of minutes and then it changes is fine. Listening to it for exactly 60 days and it doesn't change much at all is stretching it a bit.

17 July 2010
11.44am
Joe
Pepperland
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Clayton Counts said:

the automatic assumption on behalf of one of your administrators was to question whether the original poster was in the band, simply because he expressed an interest in such an outré venture.  The ensuing conversation wherein MrBig asserted a direct affiliation with the band when none existed is reason enough for me to say what I did. 

 


At the risk of fanning the flames further, I didn't question it simply because he expressed an interest in your project. As an admin/site owner I take notice if it looks like people might be spamming – I don't mind people plugging their stuff, but it helps to be transparent.
 

I made the connection not because he expressed an interest, but because MrBig's left comments elsewhere on the site with the bullofheaven url attached to his name. When people do that I tend to assume it's their site or there's some affiliation. It doesn't really make any difference to me though – it's only a website. a-hard-days-night-ringo-13

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17 July 2010
12.23pm
MrBig
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Joe said:

Clayton Counts said:

the automatic assumption on behalf of one of your administrators was to question whether the original poster was in the band, simply because he expressed an interest in such an outré venture.  The ensuing conversation wherein MrBig asserted a direct affiliation with the band when none existed is reason enough for me to say what I did. 

 


At the risk of fanning the flames further, I didn't question it simply because he expressed an interest in your project. As an admin/site owner I take notice if it looks like people might be spamming – I don't mind people plugging their stuff, but it helps to be transparent.

 

I made the connection not because he expressed an interest, but because MrBig's left comments elsewhere on the site with the bullofheaven url attached to his name. When people do that I tend to assume it's their site or there's some affiliation. It doesn't really make any difference to me though – it's only a website. a-hard-days-night-ringo-13


I'm simply advertising it. I am in no way affiliated with Bull of Heaven. I'll change it now.
"The best band? The Beatles. The most overrated band? The Beatles."
17 July 2010
1.26pm
Paulrus
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Is that the same Clayton Counts as the one who did the Sgt. Petsounds mashup, by any chance?

Well, the Ukraine girls really knock me out  They leave the West behind 
17 July 2010
1.33pm
MrBig
Rapture, Atlantic Ocean
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Paulrus said:

Is that the same Clayton Counts as the one who did the Sgt. Petsounds mashup, by any chance?


Yes it is.
"The best band? The Beatles. The most overrated band? The Beatles."
30 July 2010
8.02pm
Marcelo
Shea Stadium
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"... and she's making me feel like I've never been born..."

I'd like to say "thank you" on behalf of the group and ourselves and I hope we passed the audition. John Lennon
8 August 2010
8.27pm
Dear Prudence
Coming down fast but miles above you.
Apple rooftop
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I'm sorry Marcelo, I don't know what you mean by that.

Dear Prudence Giving you quality -Facepalms- , since August 7, 2010.
10 August 2010
8.06pm
Marcelo
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Dear Prudence said:

I'm sorry Marcelo, I don't know what you mean by that.


Me neither...

 

No, I mean, very depressing thread.

I'd like to say "thank you" on behalf of the group and ourselves and I hope we passed the audition. John Lennon
11 August 2010
9.50pm
Dear Prudence
Coming down fast but miles above you.
Apple rooftop
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understood!a-hard-days-night-ringo-10

Dear Prudence Giving you quality -Facepalms- , since August 7, 2010.
5 September 2010
1.36am
Dear Prudence
Coming down fast but miles above you.
Apple rooftop
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Clayton Counts said:

Apology accepted. 

 

I just spent three days uploading 75 Gigabytes that I now have to re-upload from scratch.  THREE WHOLE DAYS of my life.   I can't get those days back.  What did you do yesterday?  Eat a burrito?  Climb a tree?  Go swimming?  Talk to a girl? 


So am I talking to a celebrity or something?
Dear Prudence Giving you quality -Facepalms- , since August 7, 2010.
1 June 2011
7.44am
green_dog252
A Beginning
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i had to make an account and reply to this awesome thread. one of the most interesting threads i've ever read. good job, everyone.

1 June 2011
4.39pm
McLennonSon
In the middle of the roundabout
Rishikesh
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MrBig said:

Paulrus said:

Is that the same Clayton Counts as the one who did the Sgt. Petsounds mashup, by any chance?


Yes it is.
 

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1 June 2011
5.44pm
Von Bontee
A Hole In The Road
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I remember this thread amusing me greatly, seeing Mr. Big go all "Mea culpa"

One day, a tape-op got a tape on backwards, he went to play it, and it was all "Neeeradno-undowarrroom" and it was "Wow! Sounds Indian!" -- Paul McCartney
1 June 2011
10.57pm
GniknuS
Rain? I don't mind
Apple rooftop
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I remember reading this thread and thinking 'and somewhere, paulsbass is smiling.'
Post one to post ten or so is quite a wild ride, from Paul McCartney, to George Martin, to Billy Preston, to someone auditioning for Apple, and ultimately ending up as an Apple Scruff. How we love you.
I do miss Mr. Big though, I liked his posts, but I think it's pretty ironic that the word "bull" is in this thread.

I sat on a rug, biding my time, drinking her wine
1 June 2011
11.16pm
mr. Sun king coming together
Nowhere Land
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It sure is a funny thread, I'll give it that.

I tried to think of something powerful and moving… and failed.  "You were given a choice between war and dishonor - you chose dishonor, and you shall have war" - Winston Churchill
2 June 2011
12.36am
MeanMrsMustard
Nowhere Land
Apple rooftop
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Von Bontee said:

I remember this thread amusing me greatly, seeing Mr. Big go all "Mea culpa"

New Idea for End of Year Awards:

"King Mixer."  

If I seem to act unkind, it's only me, it's not my mind that is confusing things.

2 June 2011
12.39am
mr. Sun king coming together
Nowhere Land
Apple rooftop
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MeanMrsMustard said:

Von Bontee said:

I remember this thread amusing me greatly, seeing Mr. Big go all "Mea culpa"

New Idea for End of Year Awards:

"King Mixer."  

Making my life easer... Love it!!!

I tried to think of something powerful and moving… and failed.  "You were given a choice between war and dishonor - you chose dishonor, and you shall have war" - Winston Churchill
2 June 2011
5.02am
MeanMrsMustard
Nowhere Land
Apple rooftop
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You're welcome. :D apple01

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If I seem to act unkind, it's only me, it's not my mind that is confusing things.

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