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Are You into Older Music/Movies/Other Things as a General Rule?
25 August 2011
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I for one tend to enjoy entertainment from before my generation. My Mom was the one who introduced me to all sorts of classic films (Casablanca, Gone with the Wind, The Blob), and you will be just as likely to find me watching something from 50 years ago as something from today. I'm also into older music (no kidding), and have recently taken up watching shows like Morecambe and Wise on Youtube. So I was just wondering if fellow Beatles Fans have a taste for older entertainment like I do. 

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26 August 2011
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Maybe not as a rule, but it's more like the realization that cool stuff exists from all generations in all genres. That sounds simple, but a lot of people I know are closed off and refuse to believe that something made before the year 2000 could be cool. Thinking about it honestly though, the majority of the music I listen to nowadays is newer, which is a change from how I was a few years ago. I'm not a huge movie watcher but I'll watch anything that I'm intersted in, but most documentaries I watch are newer simply because they are a little bit slicker and a little more edgy.
Books I'll read anything, but certainly as the times change it becomes more about the ability to relate and some books span generations, but some don't.
So I suppose I try to stay not necessarily current with the really popular stuff, but the music and movies that are getting made on smaller budgets nowadays interest me more than older stuff. But I do think you have to look back to move forward.

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26 August 2011
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There are two clichés I hate:
1. That all old stuff is shit.
2. That all new stuff is shit.
Now, they may look counterintuitive, but I would never consciously say, "Oh, this is from 1969, it has to be good." Nor would I say, "Oh, this is from 2009, must be crap." Because, there is good music/books/movies made today, just as their was 150 years ago. I mean, let's take music. Not all my music is old – in fact, it's getting newer. There's still a lot of old music I love, music I will still love till my dieing day. But, and I think Joe said this (or something very similar) earlier elsewhere, in that it doesn't have to be all or nothing. I can play Tomorrow Never Knows, and then I can play City And Colour (they're great, BTW). It's not like it needs to be 1960 revisited or fully now. Balance. I think of my last 6 CD's I put on my iPod, the earliest was 2004. Because plenty of good music exist. It was just more accessible in 1969. But, accessibility doesn't equal greatness. I like/love many things of years gone by, but not because it's old.

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26 August 2011
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mr. Sun king coming together said:

There are two clichés I hate:
1. That all old stuff is shit.
2. That all new stuff is shit.

 

Exactly what I think. But let me say that another cliché I hate is that young people today are complete idiots and if the world sucks it's their fault.

 

Go to a youtube video of The Beatles for example: you'll find comments like "new born people doesn't know this stuff because they only listen to pop music and they deserve so because they are idiots" and so on. Fuck it, I'm 21 and I can say that there as much idiots from my generation as all the others. And there is as much people with bad taste from my generation as all the other generations.

 

Back to the topic, I like old movies, but just some (I have a sucker for Laurel & Hardy and The Marx Brothers) and I also enjoy new movies. I'm into comic books as well and while I like Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse from the 40s and 50s, my favourite comic is called Julia and it's an Italian one about a criminologist. I know this comic is sold as well in Brazil, but I don't know if it's known elsewhere in the world. I also love Calvin & Hobbes, even though you may count it as an old comic since the strip ended in 1995

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26 August 2011
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I think most mainstream music currently is poor, the everyday stuff that is churned out on commercial radio is garbage, however there is good stuff out there, you just have to look for it. Any decent song that comes around is so overplayed that by day 3 you've heard it 40 times.

About two years ago i heard on bbc radio 2 a run down of the top 20 singles chart when a hard days night first reach #1. Aside from the Beatles, Stones and Kinks, possibly the Animals im not too sure if they were there or not, the rest of the music was pretty dire. There is a myth that the 60's was a decade when every second song was magical. It wasnt. A lot was garbage. It just so happens you have a very rich cream that came to the top. 

 

Personally i dont have a general rule for anything but i do prefer older music. My 3 faves are the Beatles, Buddy Holly and Kendall Payne. Queen would be up there too. After that im open to hear most things but get bored very easily.

Regrading books and films i dont go by release dates, not that i do for music either.

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26 August 2011
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The way some people (especially the YouTube idiots) talk is astounding. There is no need for you to look at music and say, "I only like the ____ (insert year here)." If you look at my iPod, I have songs everywhere from the 1940's (Dean Martin) to 2010 (Arcade Fire). There is lots of bad misic today – I'm not denying that. But, the difference is that, well, there's no difference. There was crap in the 60's. All that Helen Shapiro crap, all that electronica, all those things. But it just takes a bit of work to find the gold stuff. My favourite (non Beatles) band? Arcade Fire. Other current favourites? Adele, Mumford and Sons, Florence and the Machine, City and Colour, etc. But, they won't be hitting No. 1 on the charts (well, Adele will), but all of those are, in short great. Don't view things from the prism of dates – view it from the prism of skill.

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26 August 2011
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A lot of the talk/comments on youtube are for the reaction. To go by year/decade is daft. It is very easy for me to say i hate jazz, but as soon as i write that i know there will be exceptions. Hardcore Rave and Death Metal on the otherhand i wont go anywhere near.

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26 August 2011
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To be honest, the majority of my favourite music and movies were made in the 90's.

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26 August 2011
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I think the evolution of culture is one of the more interesting topics because a lot of people would say our culture is "devolving" but I don't agree with that. It just seems like certain distractionary media is put out there intentionally, I don't know that for a fact, but it just seems to be the case. There's no other reason why there are 12 Saw movies and why the same 3 songs get repeated on the radio every day. The point of art is to not only entertain, but to make you think and to leave you with something and it just seems like a lot of today's entertainment is specifically designed to make you not think.

So I think you basically have to break free of some aspect of pop culture in order to have a more comprehensive look at art in general and what it means to you, and more often than not it you'd figure that the best way to break free of the really popular stuff today is to listen to older music or watch older movies. Then I think it becomes easier to appreciate the really cool stuff that's coming out now because you have more of an idea of what you're looking for rather than just aimlessly searching.

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26 August 2011
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Musicwise, yes – I love all kinds of stuff, but I've always had a particular fondness for the music of the '60s and '70s, that I was born a decade too late for. Aside from the innovations and groundbreaking nature of much of the music of the era (especially the 60s), the plain fact is that the stuff just sounds better to my ears, largely because it was mostly recorded using tube- or transistor-based recording equipment. Once everybody switched to digital in the early '80s, the music lost something – it sounded like it was recorded in the Matrix or something. Even my very favourite '80s stuff (and there's lots of it I love), to enjoy it, I generally have to overlook that horrible drum sound that started appearing everywhere after about 1983 or so. (And evidently an entire wave of rappers felt the same way, judging from the number of '60s-70s recordings they took their drum samples from.)

Movies? Yep again, gimme the old ones – especially ones from the "Easy Riders/Raging Bulls" era, or else old B&Ws from the '40s. I have a hard time getting interested in modern movies because I've never had any interest in comic book superheroes. I don't care if "The Dark Knight" is a masterpiece, it just has no appeal for me, sorry.

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26 August 2011
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I like older stuff and I like newer stuff. I'm more like if it's good, it's worth looking into no matter the year it came out. I'm not completely immersed in older music, movies, and television, but I enjoy the entertainment value. I'm just more interested in older stuff than new. Though I have no problem with new movies, some of the music and television shows do make me question people and their judgement. It tends to me monotonous crap. That's when I don't even bother.

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28 August 2011
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mr. Sun king coming together said:

I like/love many things of years gone by, but not because it's old.

That's not what I was saying at all- I don't like stuff purely because it's old. That would be like wearing my grandmother's clothes, no matter how badly aged or poor quality they are, simply because they were from the 60's. No,  I like stuff because I feel it appeals to me- and it just so happens that a lot of the popular shows from the past appeal to me.

And in terms of modern music, I like Radiohead, Coldplay, Fleet Foxes- in fact, my iPod's split 50/50 between music at least a decade old, and recent (mostly indie) music. 

 

meanmistermustard said:

Anyone for Kate Perry?a-hard-days-night-ringo-14

 

I'd rather listen to Yoko Ono's solo work a-hard-days-night-ringo-13

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28 August 2011
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Yoko is actually doing really well in the current music scene what with all the remixes and stuff.

Personally i dont think there is anyone out there at the moment doing anything new or outstanding. If you like pop there are numerous artists/bands doing exactly the same thing, same for dance, same for indie, same for r&b.

(If thats not a generalisation then i dont know what is.)

There are good songs just not great original artists.

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28 August 2011
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Oh boy, my "generalisation gone completely wrong" radar is going like Hobbes for tuna. There are great artists – plenty. Arcade Fire, City and Colour, Mumford and Sons, Adele, and the apparent favourite of most of here (who I have admitted not heard much of), The Strokes. I have no problem with generalisations – there needs to be fact. I'm fine for people to be oblivious to this music, but they better not drag me with them.

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28 August 2011
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Adele is a bore. I fail to see what on earth everyone sees in her or why her albums remain in the top 5. However we live in a world where Katie Perry is seen as decent. For that reason alone the music world should be stopped, sat down and re-educated in the ways of music. I also think Lady Gaga started out offering something different, unfortunately it all became cartoonish and taken as something serious/pretentious.

The most recent new artist I have found to be original with meaningful lyrics is Kendall Payne. I stand by my comment that there are good songs just not great original artists; original meaning doing something different, bringing something new to the music scene.

"Well, probably we'll sell less records, less people'll go to see the film, we'll write less songs, and we'll all die of failure" (John Lennon 8/64)
28 August 2011
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I think that's a good point about original artists MMr.M and it's certainly not just true of music, I was sitting around trying to think of any writer, painter or poet from my generation and I honestly couldn't think of any which is just pathetic. I just think there's something behind that, call me crazy but there must be a reason that art is being so greatly suppressed at the moment. Here we are with access to so much information at the click of a button, and yet less and less people are expressing themselves creativly. Art is such a powerful tool and yet it's almost impossible to actually survive as an artist nowadays with how much it costs just to live, so most people probably give up on trying to be original and "sell out" by getting a comfortable job rather than trying to survive by selling their art.
People's livelihoods are an easy thing to take for granted, but would I do the same thing if I were in that position? I'd like to think not, but I really have no clue. I stand by a lot of today's music, not popular stuff because it's not being marketed to people who actually care about music. But there are plenty of musicians who are trying to progress music and who have a deep appreciation for the history of music.

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PennyLane said:

I like older stuff and I like newer stuff.

…and I liked the older stuff when it was the newer stuff.

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I hate that stereotype so much. Even though my favorite music is classic rock, that doesn't mean I'm totally oblivious to new music. Same thing with movies and television. I love a lot of newer artists, Mumford and Sons, Jason Mraz, Maroon 5, John Mayer, Adell, and others that are newer. Also one of my favorite movies is Inception and that couldn't have been made back then. I'm a person who's interests in music/movies is very spread out across the board. So I despise when people say that I'll only like older music. Because I don't.

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My taste definitely lean towards the old days. I love old rock n roll of the fifties and sixties.

My favorite tv shows are from that time as well however I do enjoy Seinfeld and The Big Bang Theory.

Old movies from the thirties and forties are more enjoyable for me.

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90-95 % of the music I listen to is from the 1960s/70s. I do however, like some music from the 80s-today.

Same goes with the television shows. I grew up with reruns of 'the classics' on Nick at Nite and TV Land in the 80s/90s. I'm not much for watching what's currently on tv, this day in age. I do like Mad Men though.

Movies from the 60s-90s are more of what I like to watch.

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