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11.47pm
27 October 2010
Offline5.46am
1 February 2011
OfflineI haven't read anyone's response to this thread but all I can hope for is that no one is even considering this. I've never heard one Jones Bros song but I think we can all agree they are not The Beatles… or trying to be The Beatles…. or how ever anyone wants to analyze this…. I think it's pretty legitimate to say that no one will ever be The Beatles or TRY to be The Beatles or close to The Beatles or anything else anyone can think of the refer any other band to The Beatles. Correct?
6.13am
1 May 2010
OfflineAt least they say "Hey the Beatles had good ideas, let's incorporate them in our movies or videos!!" I think it's nice.. but it fails.
6.16am
23 January 2011
Offline6.19am
1 February 2011
Offline6.19am
1 May 2010
OfflineThe thing is.. why do you want to be the Beatles? Be something else…… I mean, if you are influenced by them fantastic but be yourself.
12.51pm

19 September 2010
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1 May 2010
Offline4.22pm
23 January 2011
Offlinemithveaen said:
That's true. And they work for Disney right? I don't think they can even give ideas to their bosses.
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And that is why I hate the music industry. If you don't do whats popular, you won't be popular. Glad that wasn't around in the sixties as much as it is today.
4.44pm
25 November 2010
OfflineThat's Nigel the good dog said:
mithveaen said:
That's true. And they work for Disney right? I don't think they can even give ideas to their bosses.
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And that is why I hate the music industry. If you don't do whats popular, you won't be popular. Glad that wasn't around in the sixties as much as it is today.
That's not exactly true. I think Berry Gordy had plenty of say with how his Motown acts would be presented and what they would sing. The Monkees were ruled over by Don Kirshner for the first year or two. While I think you can draw parallels between why the Monkees were controlled and why Disney acts are controlled (little kiddies with impressionable minds as their fan base), I think the Supremes and the Miracles (a.k.a. "adult" acts. "Real" acts) were just as closely scrutinized by the management machine as the Jackson 5 were.
7.26pm

19 September 2010
OfflineThe Motown example is different because the artists were watched over for a bit, but were given free reign after their first commercial success.
7.40pm
25 November 2010
OfflineI'm fairly certain that they weren't that laissez-faire with their golden geese.
Here's something I found online about Stevie Wonder: http://www.peopleandprofiles.c…..type=image
Besides Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder was one of the few Motown stars to contest the label's factory-like operation methods: artists, songwriters, and producers were usually kept in specialized collectives with little or no overlap, and artists had no creative control. Wonder argued with Berry Gordy over creative control a number of times. As a compromise, Motown released an album under the name "Eivets Rednow" (Stevie Wonder backwards). These arguments continued, and Wonder allowed his Motown contract to expire. He left the label on his twenty-first birthday in 1971. His final album before his departure was Where I'm Coming From, which Gordy had strongly fought against releasing.
And here's something tying in the Beatles with Motown that I found interesting:
http://blog.timesunion.com/chu…..ords/3438/
7.59pm

19 September 2010
Offline8.07pm
25 November 2010
Offlinemr. Sun king coming together said:
Interesting. But Motown at least madegood music. Disney doesn't.
At least we can agree on that.
10.08pm
23 January 2011
OfflineStarWisher said:
That's Nigel the good dog said:
mithveaen said:
That's true. And they work for Disney right? I don't think they can even give ideas to their bosses.
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And that is why I hate the music industry. If you don't do whats popular, you won't be popular. Glad that wasn't around in the sixties as much as it is today.
That's not exactly true. I think Berry Gordy had plenty of say with how his Motown acts would be presented and what they would sing. The Monkees were ruled over by Don Kirshner for the first year or two. While I think you can draw parallels between why the Monkees were controlled and why Disney acts are controlled (little kiddies with impressionable minds as their fan base), I think the Supremes and the Miracles (a.k.a. "adult" acts. "Real" acts) were just as closely scrutinized by the management machine as the Jackson 5 were.
That's what I meant, but I worded it badly. Sorry.
10.16pm

19 September 2010
Offline4.01am
1 May 2010
Offline4.16am
23 January 2011
OfflineGniknuS said:
All in agreement? Good, Disney wishes it could be this funky.
I LOVE THIS SONG! My dad had this picture of the cleaning products Pride and Joy by eachother and I would laugh because I understood how it was related.
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