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Amy Winehouse is dead…
24 July 2011
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Did you write Whinehouse on purpose? Because it's Winehouse (just checking)

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24 July 2011
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Done!!

 

Honestly, no, my feelings are not hurt. For me, it's terrible she died because IMHO she had talent. At least more than many pop singers nowadays.

 

I'm so surrounded by death that I feel sorry for any life lost in a stupid silly nonsense way. Even if it was their fault.

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24 July 2011
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I thought that "Rehab" brought a fresh, retro feel to music.  She could have been a powerhouse, all she had to do was apply herself.  But, alas, the drugs are too much for people to overcome. RIP

24 July 2011
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I'd tend to agree with you pb, it's sad that she's gone but musically I don't think she was really worth the hype. Although I certainly haven't heard all of her songs, I've heard enough and I think just because she was a little bit different from the rest of the pop scene, her material seemed to get slighly more attention than it should have. Just my opinion of course, sad news but she certainly isn't anywhere close to a Hendrix or Cobain in terms of what could have been.
A Swedish band called Koop is a much, much better jazz-pop combo than Winehouse, imo.

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24 July 2011
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GniknuS said:

but she certainly isn't anywhere close to a Hendrix or Cobain in terms of what could have been.

Very very true, they were in a different league. But Back To Black was a great album, and I think she was a very talented songwriter. (Of course the majority of her fame came from her lifestyle as opposed to her music.) I just think she could have been capable of a lot more, and it's a shame that we'll never see what she may have produced had she sorted herself out sooner. In my opinion, anyway.

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24 July 2011
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Gnik and PB, I don't agree with that one bit. I mean, I heard Rehab on the radio for the first time in a while on Thursday, and I remembered how good of a singer she was. Although the lyrics have a tint of irony in light of her death. It's a shame she never got the chance to save herself. But a surprise? Not at all.

As if it matters how a man falls down.'

'When the fall's all that's left, it matters a great deal.

24 July 2011
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I said I thought it was a shame, I never said it was a surprise...

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24 July 2011
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That wasn't at you, I wrote my post before I saw yours.

As if it matters how a man falls down.'

'When the fall's all that's left, it matters a great deal.

24 July 2011
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Ahhh, then sorry, just ignore me.

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24 July 2011
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I'm not sure it's that simple a thing to say, paulsbass. It's OK not to like her music, but to say "Oh she should have listened to those people who said to quit it," I'm sure she wanted to and just really couldn't for whatever reason.

I liked her music OK, but being addicted to anything is hard. I mean, this is like chalk compared to what she was going through but I don't know how many times I've told myself not to bite my nails, and I keep doing it. You get hooked on something, and it's hard to stop, even if the trade off is better health and a longer life (or fingers that don't look like they had a minor run in with a fan or something.) She wasn't a saint by any means, but for someone to be that messed up, all I can do is feel sorry for her and hope she's found the peace in death that she obviously couldn't find while living.

I had Back to Black at one point, and it was OK. Rehab's a great song. So is Tears Dry On Their Own. That was her breakthrough album, and I bet if her drug use wasn't so rampant, she'd probably have made a few more great albums.

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24 July 2011
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I never got too much into her music, but I really liked her voice. She had so much potential, but drugs are a bitch. R.I.P. Amy.

 

She was 27 though. The 27 Club takes another. 

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24 July 2011
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My favorites from the 27 Club must be Henny and Morry

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24 July 2011
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I'm not denying that she was a talented singer, Sun King, but that doesn't mean her music was all that spectacular.
Paulsbass's point was that a lot of her fame was due to her lifestyle and it was that lifestyle that eventually caught up with her. I think it's interesting to see how most artists live, whether it be Winehouse or someone like Elliot Smith or James Taylor or obviously John. The demons that exist in all of their lives fuels their creativity, John considered 1967 to be his most depressed year and yet it seemed to be his most innovative artistically. So had Winehouse cleaned up, maybe she could have gotten on track but maybe she would have lost her greatest source of inspiration.
It almost makes you wonder what is needed to be an artist and if that journey is even worth going through. Or you could just be like Paul and have an optimistic outlook, but even his greatest songs were written during his and the Beatles struggles. I think the struggle peels back some layer and exposes real emotion that can be related to on many different levels.

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24 July 2011
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GniknuS said:

I'm not denying that she was a talented singer, Sun King, but that doesn't mean her music was all that spectacular.
Paulsbass's point was that a lot of her fame was due to her lifestyle and it was that lifestyle that eventually caught up with her. I think it's interesting to see how most artists live, whether it be Winehouse or someone like Elliot Smith or James Taylor or obviously John. The demons that exist in all of their lives fuels their creativity, John considered 1967 to be his most depressed year and yet it seemed to be his most innovative artistically. So had Winehouse cleaned up, maybe she could have gotten on track but maybe she would have lost her greatest source of inspiration.

The first part about her fame was completely right. But, what damn demons caused James Taylor all this hardship? Other then a drug addiction, nothing real bad happened. I realise Fire and Rain was about that, but one song isn't a fair assessment of his career, or his creativity.

As if it matters how a man falls down.'

'When the fall's all that's left, it matters a great deal.

25 July 2011
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I just read the first half of his biography because I was interested and James struggled with many, many demons growing up. He was a shy kid from a well to do family who couldn't live up to his fathers expectations. Now, those problems aren't quite as large as, say, being abandoned by your parents because James' problems were mostly self-inflicted wounds like habitual laziness and being a drug addict. James' story certainly isn't unique, many kids go on to disappoint their parents, including me a-hard-days-night-george-10, but rather than accept it and go on living a normal life with a normal job like so many others would, James still pursued his dream and he couldn't do anything but become a musician. He basically gave himself the choice of becoming a world famous musician or suicide, there was no middle ground.

So my point would be that something separates artists from everyone else and usually it's something inside that on the one hand tears them apart, but on the other hand fuels their creative juices. It's just an interesting thing to think about.

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25 July 2011
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The 27 club freaks me out. Brian Jones, Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison and Cobain... and then Amy? 

I'm not a fan of her music, but it's certainly sad to see her die at such a young age. And all the videos on youtube of her live and all, all the hate comments... I guess she didn't have control of her life, but had talent. 

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25 July 2011
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I'm actually really sad about this. Back To Black is a brilliant album and Rehab was a genuine breath of fresh air when it arrived. It was the sound of an artist completely fulfilling all her expectations after a slightly underwhelming debut. She was a gifted singer and songwriter, someone who really understood music, and who brought genuine emotional depth to her creativity. I think most people bought Back To Black because of the music rather than the tabloid stories about her personal problems, and it's such a shame that the last five years were more about the latter.

Drug addiction really is one of the worst things that can befall a person and their family. It must be horrible watching someone – regardless of their talent – be in thrall to a substance that is killing them, and be unable to help. It's less a lifestyle choice too once it takes over – and that often happens without users realising. Paulsbass – she was in and out of rehab quite a bit over the years. And she recorded some demos of new material not so long ago – I don't know whether they're any good, but it's possible that if she'd cleaned up she could have created more of the standard of her second album. As when anyone young dies, part of the sadness is for what never was, for the unfulfilled potential.

That said, Cobain and Hendrix might well have been creatively spent by the time they died too. Their musical peaks were about three years before they died in each case, the same with Jim Morrison. But there are fuck-ups in every city in every country, and most of the time nobody cares. At least Amy was genuinely respected, admired and loved, regardless of the YouTube idiots who see all junkies as scum.

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25 July 2011
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Have they determined the official cause of death

As if it matters how a man falls down.'

'When the fall's all that's left, it matters a great deal.

26 July 2011
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mr. Sun king coming together said:

Have they determined the official cause of death

No they haven't. Most are thinking it is drug related though. All these hate comments are disgusting. People need to grow up. She was a wonderful singer who made bad decisions. She wasn't the first.

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26 July 2011
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… or the last, I hate to say. I have to think it was a drug overdose, but I wondered if there was official word yet.

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