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Amy Winehouse is dead…
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24 July 2011
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Did you write Whinehouse on purpose? Because it's Winehouse (just checking)

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I'm not denying that she was a talented singer, Sun King, but that doesn't mean her music was all that spectacular.
Paulsbass's point was that a lot of her fame was due to her lifestyle and it was that lifestyle that eventually caught up with her. I think it's interesting to see how most artists live, whether it be Winehouse or someone like Elliot Smith or James Taylor or obviously John. The demons that exist in all of their lives fuels their creativity, John considered 1967 to be his most depressed year and yet it seemed to be his most innovative artistically. So had Winehouse cleaned up, maybe she could have gotten on track but maybe she would have lost her greatest source of inspiration.
It almost makes you wonder what is needed to be an artist and if that journey is even worth going through. Or you could just be like Paul and have an optimistic outlook, but even his greatest songs were written during his and the Beatles struggles. I think the struggle peels back some layer and exposes real emotion that can be related to on many different levels.

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GniknuS said:

I'm not denying that she was a talented singer, Sun King, but that doesn't mean her music was all that spectacular.
Paulsbass's point was that a lot of her fame was due to her lifestyle and it was that lifestyle that eventually caught up with her. I think it's interesting to see how most artists live, whether it be Winehouse or someone like Elliot Smith or James Taylor or obviously John. The demons that exist in all of their lives fuels their creativity, John considered 1967 to be his most depressed year and yet it seemed to be his most innovative artistically. So had Winehouse cleaned up, maybe she could have gotten on track but maybe she would have lost her greatest source of inspiration.

The first part about her fame was completely right. But, what damn demons caused James Taylor all this hardship? Other then a drug addiction, nothing real bad happened. I realise Fire and Rain was about that, but one song isn't a fair assessment of his career, or his creativity.

As if it matters how a man falls down.'

'When the fall's all that's left, it matters a great deal.

25 July 2011
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I'm actually really sad about this. Back To Black is a brilliant album and Rehab was a genuine breath of fresh air when it arrived. It was the sound of an artist completely fulfilling all her expectations after a slightly underwhelming debut. She was a gifted singer and songwriter, someone who really understood music, and who brought genuine emotional depth to her creativity. I think most people bought Back To Black because of the music rather than the tabloid stories about her personal problems, and it's such a shame that the last five years were more about the latter.

Drug addiction really is one of the worst things that can befall a person and their family. It must be horrible watching someone – regardless of their talent – be in thrall to a substance that is killing them, and be unable to help. It's less a lifestyle choice too once it takes over – and that often happens without users realising. Paulsbass – she was in and out of rehab quite a bit over the years. And she recorded some demos of new material not so long ago – I don't know whether they're any good, but it's possible that if she'd cleaned up she could have created more of the standard of her second album. As when anyone young dies, part of the sadness is for what never was, for the unfulfilled potential.

That said, Cobain and Hendrix might well have been creatively spent by the time they died too. Their musical peaks were about three years before they died in each case, the same with Jim Morrison. But there are fuck-ups in every city in every country, and most of the time nobody cares. At least Amy was genuinely respected, admired and loved, regardless of the YouTube idiots who see all junkies as scum.

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