The Beatles Bible - Topic: What do you consider the last "early" Beatles album?

TwoAfter908 on What do you consider the last "early" Beatles album?

Tue, 09 Apr 2013 01:37:50 +0100

"Help!" because like ^megopop09^ I think "Help!" is the transition between periods. And because "Help!" is the last Beatles album to have songs not written by them (other than "Maggie Mae", obviously)

megopop09 on What do you consider the last "early" Beatles album?

Mon, 08 Apr 2013 15:10:40 +0100

For me Beatles For Sale has to be the last early album and i see Help! as a transition where there songwriting became more personal and interesting. Additionally Rubber Soul has a completely different feel to it than Beatles For Sale where as Help! is similar to both.

DrBeatle on What do you consider the last "early" Beatles album?

Thu, 28 Mar 2013 16:50:33 +0000

I agree. It's like the variety and randomness unifies the songs. Or something like that.

Exactly! A bit of a paradox, but the fact that it's all over the place unifies it, not only because of the sound and feel of the album, but because those tracks could never exist on any other album than that one.

Egroeg Evoli on What do you consider the last "early" Beatles album?

Thu, 28 Mar 2013 15:16:06 +0000

I agree. It's like the variety and randomness unifies the songs. Or something like that.

DrBeatle on What do you consider the last "early" Beatles album?

Thu, 28 Mar 2013 15:10:59 +0000

I understand the accepted wisdom that the White Album is sprawling and all over the place, but I feel like there is still a sense of unity amongst all of those songs in the the sound, the content, and the ambiance of the entire record...those songs could ONLY be on that album with each other. (I admit I'm biased, it's my favorite Beatles album)

Egroeg Evoli on What do you consider the last "early" Beatles album?

Thu, 28 Mar 2013 14:53:54 +0000

mja6758 said

Moonie said

mja6758 said
I tend to think of BFS as a bridge album. The originals point the way forward, the amount of covers their last link back to the past. I suppose in that way it could be called a "messy" album, the way in which it's looking in two directions. However, I do not think you'd find many who'd agree that AR, one of their finest achievements, is "all over the place".

Abbey Road has some of the best Beatles compositions of all time. But it isn't ...

meanmistermustard on What do you consider the last "early" Beatles album?

Thu, 28 Mar 2013 08:56:26 +0000

Abbey Road has a very flowing feel to it, whilst the songs are different they blend together to form a very cohesive whole. For instance I Want You (She's So Heavy) can be very suffocating to some due to its extended guitar and 'white noise' ending however Here Comes The Sun immediately lightens the mood and brings fresh breaths to the listener. I certainly have never felt im going from one place to another without any link. However The White Album is very sprawling where altho there are segments that do feel natural (side 2 with the animals and a ...

mja6758 on What do you consider the last "early" Beatles album?

Thu, 28 Mar 2013 05:05:20 +0000

Moonie said

mja6758 said
I tend to think of BFS as a bridge album. The originals point the way forward, the amount of covers their last link back to the past. I suppose in that way it could be called a "messy" album, the way in which it's looking in two directions. However, I do not think you'd find many who'd agree that AR, one of their finest achievements, is "all over the place".

Abbey Road has some of the best Beatles compositions of all time. But it isn't headed in one direction. Each song ...

Moonie on What do you consider the last "early" Beatles album?

Thu, 28 Mar 2013 02:24:13 +0000

mja6758 said
I tend to think of BFS as a bridge album. The originals point the way forward, the amount of covers their last link back to the past. I suppose in that way it could be called a "messy" album, the way in which it's looking in two directions. However, I do not think you'd find many who'd agree that AR, one of their finest achievements, is "all over the place".

Abbey Road has some of the best Beatles compositions of all time. But it isn't headed in one direction. Each song is completely different. ...

c64wood on What do you consider the last "early" Beatles album?

Mon, 25 Mar 2013 16:04:02 +0000

IMO, the last "Early Album" was A Hard Day's Night.

To me, BFS and Help! were more transitional type albums. Their lyrics started getting more introspective.

GeorgeTSimpson on What do you consider the last "early" Beatles album?

Mon, 25 Mar 2013 13:07:22 +0000

Imo help is neither early not late. Beatles for sale is clearly early and rubber soul is clearlynot' but help is definitelyboth imo

mja6758 on What do you consider the last "early" Beatles album?

Sun, 24 Mar 2013 21:26:25 +0000

I tend to think of BFS as a bridge album. The originals point the way forward, the amount of covers their last link back to the past. I suppose in that way it could be called a "messy" album, the way in which it's looking in two directions. However, I do not think you'd find many who'd agree that AR, one of their finest achievements, is "all over the place".

Moonie on What do you consider the last "early" Beatles album?

Sun, 24 Mar 2013 08:14:14 +0000

bikelock28 said

But Help! is just a step up from the playfullness of pre-Beatles for Sale. It's more mature and there's no filler. A lot of memorable hits in there as well.

I would say that Beatles For Sale is the step up. You only need to look at the cover to see that those once chirpy cheeky moptoppers are now weary. Plus, BFS was the first album where they were on weed, and the Dylan influence means the Lennon songs are more self-analytical and pessimistic. So I think the difference between BFS and the whilwind chirpiness of AHDN is bigger than ...

bikelock28 on What do you consider the last "early" Beatles album?

Sun, 24 Mar 2013 07:41:14 +0000

But Help! is just a step up from the playfullness of pre-Beatles for Sale. It's more mature and there's no filler. A lot of memorable hits in there as well.

I would say that Beatles For Sale is the step up. You only need to look at the cover to see that those once chirpy cheeky moptoppers are now weary. Plus, BFS was the first album where they were on weed, and the Dylan influence means the Lennon songs are more self-analytical and pessimistic. So I think the difference between BFS and the whilwind chirpiness of AHDN is bigger than the differecne between ...

Moonie on What do you consider the last "early" Beatles album?

Sat, 23 Mar 2013 01:26:34 +0000

Probably Beatles for Sale.

Help! was their changing point in music, Rubber Soul was when they finally got the full extinct of being the world's best band, significant easy listening, pop songs. But Help! is just a step up from the playfullness of pre-Beatles for Sale. It's more mature and there's no filler. A lot of memorable hits in there as well.