1 May 2011
And one of their key attributes. You simply cannot pigeonhole the Beatles and shove all their work into one genre blob. One play of the White Album will highlight that they were quite happy to try anything even if it wasn't all that successful and ruin any such argument. However normally its flippin' good.
Too many acts get stuck with their 'sound' and remain there for however long they last unable to move away as they might alienate their fan base.
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6 August 2013
Very interesting question – I see no wrong answers up above.
To me, the "early period" (era?) would end with AHDN. Once they were under the…shall we say…"Dylan influence", that signified the end of the innocence.
I think there's a little Dylan influence in AHDN. They were already well aware of who he was, and "I Should Have Known Better" has the harmonica bursts like Dylan used to, whereas their previous harmonica playing in the songs were more melodic. And I hear Dylan in "I'll Be Back." (That song sounds incredible on the Capitol Albums box set version of Beatles '65 with the echo-y stereo.) But maybe that's just me.
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14 April 2010
… their best phase Rubber Soul-Sgt. Peppers then MMT…
I refer to this as the "headphones are a must" phase. Some great listening, that.
I think there's a little Dylan influence in AHDN. They were already well aware of who he was…
All true. However, I was not referring to Dylan's musical influence. The fact that they were now unabashedly smoking pot thanks to Dylan was more the meaning.
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I really think it's Help! The lyrics may be more mature, but the music is upbeat and happy. I'd really have more than 2 periods though, I think it's Please Please Me-A Hard Day's Night (Mostly happy, upbeat, fun) Beatles For Sale-Rubber Soul, although I also think it could just be Beatles For Sale-Help! and Rubber Soul is its own category. Then Revolver-Magical Mystery Tour (Along with Yellow Submarine) Finally, The White Album-Abbey Road. The end years.
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10 December 2013
17 December 2012
I'm kind of strange on this one. Help! I consider the last early Beatles album, however the album I consider the bridge between early Beatles and mid-60s Beatles is the one before, Beatles for Sale. It was there that John in particular started pushing his songwriting, but it also features a last look back at that band who'd played the Cavern and Hamburg. With Help! though, they were doing a soundtrack, and that put certain restrictions on them. It is difficult to think of any of John's BfS songs making a film soundtrack. To me, with Help!, because of the intended use of the songs, it sounds to me like almost a small step backwards, a holding pattern. Don't get me wrong, some great songs, but I wonder what that fifth album would have been were they not writing for a film.
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22 November 2013
Ok, I'm going to be the first to mention "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" as their last early album. Too late for early? Maybe, but in my opinion that's their last album that could be linked to the first ones – the "Lucy In the Sky" choruses always reminded me of "She Loves You", the title tracks would fit well into "Revolver", and "Within You Without You" on "Rubber Soul"… that would be amazing! Just my opinion, though you've got to admit that until "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" things were changing, but in a more or less predictable manner and they were still the same 4 guys who decided to use feedback on "I Feel Fine" (which I consider to be their first "late" song). After Rishkesh, that's when they changed, a lot.
But when it comes to separating their early and late phases in a more obvious way, then I'd go for "A Hard Day's Night". That's the last one that you can pick a random track from and put on "Please Please Me" without noticing a big difference (well, maybe except "And I Love Her"). Later, their songs had changed too much ("Every Little Thing" from "Beatles For Sale" would evidently stand out in "With the Beatles").
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