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16 December 2013
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BUT--a note of warning, which I found out while doing some research.  If you are getting the original box set volume 2, make sure it says "sk1" in tiny letters on the box, because otherwise you are getting the first batch of pressings which came with an error--Beatles VI and Rubber Soul were released in fake mono instead of the original mono.  They corrected the error on later issues of the box.

 

Yep, I'm going to have to watch for that. With my luck, I'll get the first pressing with the incorrect mono… a-hard-days-night-ringo-12

The seller I bought from notated that the box had the correct mixes (fingers crossed)!

…Of course, I suffered a mild case of OCD because one of my boxes is going to be short and the other one long (not sure why they varied the boxes--apparently there are more of the short volume 2's and long volume 1's).

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BUT--a note of warning, which I found out while doing some research.  If you are getting the original box set volume 2, make sure it says "sk1" in tiny letters on the box, because otherwise you are getting the first batch of pressings which came with an error--Beatles VI and Rubber Soul were released in fake mono instead of the original mono.  They corrected the error on later issues of the box.

 
Yep, I'm going to have to watch for that. With my luck, I'll get the first pressing with the incorrect mono… a-hard-days-night-ringo-12

The seller I bought from notated that the box had the correct mixes (fingers crossed)!

 

Best of luck and let us know how it goes. I'll get my copy when our income tax check comes. Plan on doing some Beatle shopping in the spring. brian-epstein

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There's really no point of buying this set since the fake stereo tracks get replaced with real stereo. It's better to buy the orignal box set and purchase some of the albums individualy. 

Apparently, the only individual album you need is A Hard Day's Night Sound Track.  I've just ordered that one + the 2004 sets and saved myself 85 dollars.

Are you saying you have seen the US box for $85 or that's how much you will save by getting just a few of the new set individually (I'm assuming this is it but just making sure)?  Cheapest I have seen it is around 125 Canadian.
 

 85 dollars is what I was going to save (before I was stricken with doubt upon finding out there may be alternate mixes)…I've only seen the box for 159.99.

Thanks for that; they are much cheaper at Amazon Canada for some odd reason:

http://www.amazon.ca/The-U-S-A…..p_t_1_3KKC

 

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BBCSessions1963 said There's really no point of buying this set since the fake stereo tracks get replaced with real stereo. It's better to buy the orignal box set and purchase some of the albums individualy. 

Apparently, the only individual album you need is A Hard Day's Night Sound Track.  I've just ordered that one + the 2004 sets and saved myself 85 dollars.

Are you saying you have seen the US box for $85 or that's how much you will save by getting just a few of the new set individually (I'm assuming this is it but just making sure)?  Cheapest I have seen it is around 125 Canadian.  

 85 dollars is what I was going to save (before I was stricken with doubt upon finding out there may be alternate mixes)…I've only seen the box for 159.99.

Thanks for that; they are much cheaper at Amazon Canada for some odd reason: http://www.amazon.ca/The-U-S-A…..p_t_1_3KKC  

I would rather have the historical mixes in either case, although that is cheap. I'm not sure about tax and shipping though.

turns out the box set is three dollars less. Too bad it's not what I want--nice package though 

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I just ordered it from Amazon.ca. It's currently CDN$ 135.07. With postage (1-2 weeks delivery to the UK) it came to £84. On Amazon.co.uk it's currently £146.

I was looking at the price of individual albums, and over here they're £15 each. I've already got the Capitol box sets so only needed AHDN, Yesterday And Today, Revolver, Hey Jude and The Beatles' Story (and the last of those is only on the box set). Might as well get the set rather than fewer individual albums for a similar price.

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I just ordered it from Amazon.ca. It's currently CDN$ 135.07. With postage (1-2 weeks delivery to the UK) it came to £84. On Amazon.co.uk it's currently £146.

I was looking at the price of individual albums, and over here they're £15 each. I've already got the Capitol box sets so only needed AHDN, Yesterday And Today, Revolver, Hey Jude and The Beatles' Story (and the last of those is only on the box set). Might as well get the set rather than fewer individual albums for a similar price.

I guess in the end I'm a sucker for packaging.  I got to thinking my CDs would be lonely without their other friends in the box, so I ordered the set from Amazon after all.  It'll come to about 135 US dollars, which is about 38 dolllars less than buying domestically.

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I just ordered it from Amazon.ca. It's currently CDN$ 135.07. With postage (1-2 weeks delivery to the UK) it came to £84. On Amazon.co.uk it's currently £146.
I was looking at the price of individual albums, and over here they're £15 each. I've already got the Capitol box sets so only needed AHDN, Yesterday And Today, Revolver, Hey Jude and The Beatles' Story (and the last of those is only on the box set). Might as well get the set rather than fewer individual albums for a similar price.

I guess in the end I'm a sucker for packaging.  I got to thinking my CDs would be lonely without their other friends in the box, so I ordered the set from Amazon after all.  It'll come to about 135 US dollars, which is about 38 dolllars less than buying domestically.

Very thoughtful of you to consider the feelings of these lonely CDs :)

 

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trcanberra said

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I just ordered it from Amazon.ca. It's currently CDN$ 135.07. With postage (1-2 weeks delivery to the UK) it came to £84. On Amazon.co.uk it's currently £146.
I was looking at the price of individual albums, and over here they're £15 each. I've already got the Capitol box sets so only needed AHDN, Yesterday And Today, Revolver, Hey Jude and The Beatles' Story (and the last of those is only on the box set). Might as well get the set rather than fewer individual albums for a similar price.

I guess in the end I'm a sucker for packaging.  I got to thinking my CDs would be lonely without their other friends in the box, so I ordered the set from Amazon after all.  It'll come to about 135 US dollars, which is about 38 dolllars less than buying domestically.

Very thoughtful of you to consider the feelings of these lonely CDs :)

 

CDs need friends, too. a-hard-days-night-john-6

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According to Super Deluxe Edition (and supposedly this comes from an Apple representative), the UK mixes on the new box set are new 2013 remasters and not digitally the same as the 2009 remasters.

Supposedly they are newly EQ'd from 24/192 source.

 

http://www.superdeluxeedition……s-box-set/

Here is an explanation from the comments:

Depends on how technical you want to get really. The 24/192 digital source is basically the purest version of the 2009 remasters. But that isn’t the source the 2009 CDs were created from. there was a ‘layer’ in between that and the CDs. The CDs were created from a 16bit digital source (confirmed to me by Apple). Anyway, what I said is correct. To create most of the content of these new US CDs, they have stepped back in the process to the very high quality 24/192 digital files and moved forward again from there. They are still the 2009 remasters – they aren’t going back to analogue tapes and starting the whole process again – but they have tweaked the EQ to match levels with Capitol analogue masters and to edge the sound more towards what US pops fans liked to hear in the ’60s without doing the whole slapping on reverb, fake stereo etc.

So YES they are the 2009 remasters, but at the same time they will be a little bit different. Modified 2009 remasters, might be the best way of describing it. I’ve got no idea how apparent all this will be when you play the new CDs. They may just sound identical to all but the most discerning of ears.

Hopefully the above makes some kind of sense.. :)

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^ Nothing about this release makes very much sense to me :)

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Expert Textpert said
According to Super Deluxe Edition (and supposedly this comes from an Apple representative), the UK mixes on the new box set are new 2013 remasters and not digitally the same as the 2009 remasters.

Supposedly they are newly EQ'd from 24/192 source.

 

http://www.superdeluxeedition……s-box-set/

Here is an explanation from the comments:

Depends on how technical you want to get really. The 24/192 digital source is basically the purest version of the 2009 remasters. But that isn’t the source the 2009 CDs were created from. there was a ‘layer’ in between that and the CDs. The CDs were created from a 16bit digital source (confirmed to me by Apple). Anyway, what I said is correct. To create most of the content of these new US CDs, they have stepped back in the process to the very high quality 24/192 digital files and moved forward again from there. They are still the 2009 remasters – they aren’t going back to analogue tapes and starting the whole process again – but they have tweaked the EQ to match levels with Capitol analogue masters and to edge the sound more towards what US pops fans liked to hear in the ’60s without doing the whole slapping on reverb, fake stereo etc.

So YES they are the 2009 remasters, but at the same time they will be a little bit different. Modified 2009 remasters, might be the best way of describing it. I’ve got no idea how apparent all this will be when you play the new CDs. They may just sound identical to all but the most discerning of ears.

Hopefully the above makes some kind of sense.. :)

So I take it that they are going to remix all the songs to sound like the Capitol mixes but without the reverb and fake stereo using the 2009 masters so now there will be the 2009 UK remasters, The Capitol Album original masters from 2004 $ 06 and now the new ones for this US Albums release which means that I will need this collection to have all the mixes. It figures!

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Inner Light said

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According to Super Deluxe Edition (and supposedly this comes from an Apple representative), the UK mixes on the new box set are new 2013 remasters and not digitally the same as the 2009 remasters.

Supposedly they are newly EQ'd from 24/192 source.

 

http://www.superdeluxeedition……s-box-set/

Here is an explanation from the comments:

Depends on how technical you want to get really. The 24/192 digital source is basically the purest version of the 2009 remasters. But that isn’t the source the 2009 CDs were created from. there was a ‘layer’ in between that and the CDs. The CDs were created from a 16bit digital source (confirmed to me by Apple). Anyway, what I said is correct. To create most of the content of these new US CDs, they have stepped back in the process to the very high quality 24/192 digital files and moved forward again from there. They are still the 2009 remasters – they aren’t going back to analogue tapes and starting the whole process again – but they have tweaked the EQ to match levels with Capitol analogue masters and to edge the sound more towards what US pops fans liked to hear in the ’60s without doing the whole slapping on reverb, fake stereo etc.
So YES they are the 2009 remasters, but at the same time they will be a little bit different. Modified 2009 remasters, might be the best way of describing it. I’ve got no idea how apparent all this will be when you play the new CDs. They may just sound identical to all but the most discerning of ears.
Hopefully the above makes some kind of sense.. :)

So I take it that they are going to remix all the songs to sound like the Capitol mixes but without the reverb and fake stereo using the 2009 masters so now there will be the 2009 UK remasters, The Capitol Album original masters from 2004 $ 06 and now the new ones for this US Albums release which means that I will need this collection to have all the mixes. It figures!

Yes.  The way I see it is that this is the US Albums…Naked, meaning they will be as The Beatles thought they should have been done in the first place…no duophonic mixes, no reverb.  But they will be EQ'd to sound like the original albums, and where the mixes or takes are unique to the Capitol albums, they will be kept "as is" but remastered from the original 60's tapes that George Martin sent to the USA (instead of tweaking from the different 2009 source).  Also, where a stereo mix is not available to replace a duophonic mix, it will be replaced with a mono mix (not sure in which instance this happens).

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Expert Textpert said

Inner Light said

Expert Textpert said
According to Super Deluxe Edition (and supposedly this comes from an Apple representative), the UK mixes on the new box set are new 2013 remasters and not digitally the same as the 2009 remasters.

Supposedly they are newly EQ'd from 24/192 source.

 

http://www.superdeluxeedition……s-box-set/

Here is an explanation from the comments:

Depends on how technical you want to get really. The 24/192 digital source is basically the purest version of the 2009 remasters. But that isn’t the source the 2009 CDs were created from. there was a ‘layer’ in between that and the CDs. The CDs were created from a 16bit digital source (confirmed to me by Apple). Anyway, what I said is correct. To create most of the content of these new US CDs, they have stepped back in the process to the very high quality 24/192 digital files and moved forward again from there. They are still the 2009 remasters – they aren’t going back to analogue tapes and starting the whole process again – but they have tweaked the EQ to match levels with Capitol analogue masters and to edge the sound more towards what US pops fans liked to hear in the ’60s without doing the whole slapping on reverb, fake stereo etc.
So YES they are the 2009 remasters, but at the same time they will be a little bit different. Modified 2009 remasters, might be the best way of describing it. I’ve got no idea how apparent all this will be when you play the new CDs. They may just sound identical to all but the most discerning of ears.
Hopefully the above makes some kind of sense.. :)

So I take it that they are going to remix all the songs to sound like the Capitol mixes but without the reverb and fake stereo using the 2009 masters so now there will be the 2009 UK remasters, The Capitol Album original masters from 2004 $ 06 and now the new ones for this US Albums release which means that I will need this collection to have all the mixes. It figures!

Yes.  The way I see it is that this is the US Albums…Naked, meaning they will be as The Beatles thought they should have been done in the first place…no duophonic mixes, no reverb.  But they will be EQ'd to sound like the original albums, and where the mixes or takes are unique to the Capitol albums, they will be kept "as is" but remastered from the original 60's tapes that George Martin sent to the USA (instead of tweaking from the 2009 source).

Wouldn't the Beatles have wanted the US albums to be exactly the same as the UK, same packaging, everything? This just sounds like more tinkering so collectors who want every version now have to buy this for the new slightly different mixes instead of passing it over as they already had the Capitol boxes.

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I don't see a problem with having a new mix.

Also, it seems like one would want to get this since "the 24/192 digital source is basically the purest version" and the 2009 remasters were created from a 16 bit digital source.

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Examiner reports a 25 track promo cd sampler for this is being released in January, Wogblog has images of it.

 

[Also posted over in the news thread.]

 

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Was there any point where they began to sell UK versions of the album in the US on vinyl? Besides recently

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Was there any point where they began to sell UK versions of the album in the US on vinyl? Besides recently

Yes. There was a box with the UK vinyl released in 1978 called The Beatles Collection, wiki says it was a limited US release as well as the The Beatles: The Collection issued in 1982. Here's a webpage that details all the Beatles box sets which have been released in America.

 

 

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meanmistermustard said

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Was there any point where they began to sell UK versions of the album in the US on vinyl? Besides recently

Yes. There was a box with the UK vinyl released in 1978 called The Beatles Collection, wiki says it was a limited US release as well as the The Beatles: The Collection issued in 1982. Here's a webpage that details all the Beatles box sets which have been released in America.

 

 

That brings back memories.  My last LP purchase before my wife 'asked' me to sell them all – I barely had time to listen to each one once (not my customary twice) before they were out the door.

 

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Thanks yall. My mother tells me of her youth were she owned all of the Beatles albums and that she had all of them yet she knows the songs in the order of the British catalogue so I figured she had to have gotten them in some sort of UK album release in the US. Most of her vinyl got stolen however when we were moving from North Carolina to Alabama though. She still was lucky enough to have kept hold of a copy of Hey Jude and a Beatles 65 with exclusive artwork form her and my other Aunts and Uncle on the cover.

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That 24/192 high quality digital source sounds like it might be the same one used on the Apple USB thingy (technical term). That reportedly had better quality than the CDs.

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