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Strongest Beatle per album
24 May 2012
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paulsbass said

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Anyway Paul sang the "ahh" part on ADL? Now I am confused, it doesn't sound like him.

It's hard to tell in the whole mix, but the isolated vocal tracks reveal it's Paul.

Still, for many people that's evidence it's John.

We had quite an engaged discussion about that:

http://www.beatlesbible.com/fo…..l-or-john/

I got some of them convinced, at leasta-hard-days-night-paul-8 (I think Joe closed the thread at the end or something…)

Yeah I saw that. When I search the Google, the first link with the Paul clamming was your nickname :). It doesn't matter that much, I guess we can't confirm it 100%. How come none one (journalist I mean) asked The Beatles who sang that part as it is very important part of the song? We should write Paul a letter xD.

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24 May 2012
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I always thought it was John but having listened to the multitracks (both leaked studio and rock band) Paul is definately in there. So its probably both with it being multitracked and effects added. Without going back to the original tapes and hearing how it was recorded step by step its impossible to know exactly.

 

When folks meet Paul their brains must go mush regarding what to ask? Unless its a specific beatle related thing you'd have to talk about his latest release (whatever that might be). Its a shame most people ask the same questions "Lennon, what a great bloke, what was he like?" being one.

There are another billion things you could ask; "where you still on anything when recording the Frog Song?" would be one of mine – not that i'd ever get past the weird vocal noises, drippling down my chin, and trying to remember to breathe to stay alive.

"Well, probably we'll sell less records, less people'll go to see the film, we'll write less songs, and we'll all die of failure" (John Lennon 8/64)
24 May 2012
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meanmistermustard said
I always thought it was John but having listened to the multitracks (both leaked studio and rock band) Paul is definately in there. So its probably both with it being multitracked and effects added. Without going back to the original tapes and hearing how it was recorded step by step its impossible to know exactly.

 

When folks meet Paul their brains must go mush regarding what to ask? Unless its a specific beatle related thing you'd have to talk about his latest release (whatever that might be). Its a shame most people ask the same questions "Lennon, what a great bloke, what was he like?" being one.

There are another billion things you could ask; "where you still on anything when recording the Frog Song?" would be one of mine – not that i'd ever get past the weird vocal noises, drippling down my chin, and trying to remember to breathe to stay alive.

Yeah I guess, but they had 50 years to ask him :). In a lot of interviews I hear the same questions and the same answers.

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24 May 2012
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Long John Silver said

meanmistermustard said
I always thought it was John but having listened to the multitracks (both leaked studio and rock band) Paul is definately in there. So its probably both with it being multitracked and effects added. Without going back to the original tapes and hearing how it was recorded step by step its impossible to know exactly.

When folks meet Paul their brains must go mush regarding what to ask? Unless its a specific beatle related thing you'd have to talk about his latest release (whatever that might be). Its a shame most people ask the same questions "Lennon, what a great bloke, what was he like?" being one.

There are another billion things you could ask; "where you still on anything when recording the Frog Song?" would be one of mine – not that i'd ever get past the weird vocal noises, drippling down my chin, and trying to remember to breathe to stay alive.

Yeah I guess, but they had 50 years to ask him :). In a lot of interviews I hear the same questions and the same answers.

They asked the beatles the same questions over and over for years when they were together, especially on tour, so why change the habit of a 50 year period? Surprised they still dont ask about the beatles getting back together. Actually that whole olympic hologram idea…

"Well, probably we'll sell less records, less people'll go to see the film, we'll write less songs, and we'll all die of failure" (John Lennon 8/64)
24 May 2012
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meanmistermustard said

Long John Silver said

meanmistermustard said
I always thought it was John but having listened to the multitracks (both leaked studio and rock band) Paul is definately in there. So its probably both with it being multitracked and effects added. Without going back to the original tapes and hearing how it was recorded step by step its impossible to know exactly.

When folks meet Paul their brains must go mush regarding what to ask? Unless its a specific beatle related thing you'd have to talk about his latest release (whatever that might be). Its a shame most people ask the same questions "Lennon, what a great bloke, what was he like?" being one.

There are another billion things you could ask; "where you still on anything when recording the Frog Song?" would be one of mine – not that i'd ever get past the weird vocal noises, drippling down my chin, and trying to remember to breathe to stay alive.

Yeah I guess, but they had 50 years to ask him :). In a lot of interviews I hear the same questions and the same answers.

They asked the beatles the same questions over and over for years when they were together, especially on tour, so why change the habit of a 50 year period? Surprised they still dont ask about the beatles getting back together. Actually that whole olympic hologram idea…

I think i heard 100 times "when we sang I'd love to turn you on, we gave each other that look", yeah great but what about the other parts of the song :D.

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25 May 2012
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To me this is not too tough.  It’s John through Rubber Soul then things get interesting and George flexes some muscle.  So… moving beyond RS.

 

Revolver:  Paul.  His songs coupled with his contributions to his Beatle brothers (loops on TNK) give him the edge.  I actually think George nearly takes number 2 just for sitting down for 5 hours and figuring out the backward guitar for forwards for I’m only sleeping!  That was something.

Pepper:  Paul’s baby as John said… though John is very strong.

MMT:  Paul

White Album:  It’s Paul but it’s very close. 

Yellow Submarine:  George

Abbey Road:  George has the top two tracks but it’s Paul by a hair.

LIB:  Paul and Billy P!

 

All that being said?  They’re absolute crap without Paul.  And John.  And George.  And Ringo.  And you know what? That other guy George too.   And not the hologram ones either.  And certainly not Phil Spector (or hologram Phil as circumstance dictates a-hard-days-night-paul-11).

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25 May 2012
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paulsbass said

Long John Silver said

Anyway Paul sang the "ahh" part on ADL? Now I am confused, it doesn't sound like him.

It's hard to tell in the whole mix, but the isolated vocal tracks reveal it's Paul.

Still, for many people that's evidence it's John.

We had quite an engaged discussion about that:

http://www.beatlesbible.com/fo…..l-or-john/

I got some of them convinced, at leasta-hard-days-night-paul-8 (I think Joe closed the thread at the end or something…)

That discussion is what got me to register and stop lurking here at the site!  My opinion?  It's both.  Very diplomatic I am.

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25 May 2012
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Yeah, I was eventually convinced it was both of them too! And told myself that to obsess further was to gilmpse into the heart of madness.

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25 May 2012
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Please Please Me: John (2 pts) followed by Paul (1 pt)

With the Beatles: John (2 pts) followed by George (1 pt) (although my favourite song from the LP is Paul's All My Loving)

A Hard Day's Night: John (2 pts)

Beatles for Sale: Paul (2 pts)

Help!: Paul (2 pts) followed by John (1 pt)

Rubber Soul: John (Nowhere Man, In My Life), Paul (I'm Looking Through You, Michelle) and George (Think For Yourself, If I Needed Someone). It's a draw. 2 pts for all three.

Revolver: Paul (2 pts) followed by John (1 pt) and George (1 pt)

Sgt Pepper's: Paul (2 pts) followed by John (1 pt)

Magical Mystery Tour: Paul (2 pts) followed by John (1 pt)

White Album: Paul (2 pts) followed by John (1 pt) and George (1 pt)

Yellow Submarine: does not count

Abbey Road (my favourite album): Paul (2 pts) followed by George (1pt)

Let it Be: Paul (2 pts)

 

1st place: Paul with 19 points
2nd place: John with 13 points
3d place: George with 6 point

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26 July 2012
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Please Please Me - Paul

With The Beatles - John

A Hard Days Night - John

Beatles For Sale - John

Help! - TIE Paul and John

Rubber Soul - John

Revolver - John    Paul and George Tied For 2nd

Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band – Paul

Magical Mystery TourJohn

The White AlbumTIE Paul and George

Yellow SubmarineGeorge

Abbey RoadGeorge

Let It BePaul

John 6 alone/13  1 Tie/13

Paul 3 alone/13 2 Ties/13

George 2 alone/13 1 Tie/13

Ringo 0/13

3 August 2012
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Please Please Me: John, followed closely by Paul

With The Beatles: John by far

A Hard Day's Night: John by far

Beatles for Sale: John

Help!: John, but Paul is very close (maily because of "Yesterday" and "I've Just Seen A Face", which is one of my favorites)

Rubber Soul: hard to decide – for me it's John ("Norwegian Wood" and "Nowhere Man" are the most important reasons), but followed closely by Paul

Revolver: Paul (mainly because of "Eleanor Rigby" and "Here, There And Everywhere"), followed by John

Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band: clearly Paul, as this album was mostly his idea, but with important contributions by John (mainly in "A Day In The Life", and, of course, also for "Lucy In The Sky …" and "Good Morning Good Morning")

Magical Mystery Tour: too close to call between Paul and John. I'd vote for John, mainly because of "Strawberry Fields Forever" and "I Am The Walrus", which are two of my favorite songs in the Beatles' catalogue

The Beatles ("The White Album"): very, very hard to decide, too. Again John ("Dear Prudence", "Happiness Is A Warm Gun"), closely followed by Paul and with strong contributions by George.

Yellow Submarine: George, of course.

Let It Be: Paul by far

Abbey Road: again Paul (mainly because of the Abbey Road Medley), with strong contributions by John ("Come Together" and parts of the Medley) and George

 

Score:

Winner: John (8/13)

Paul (4/13)

George (1/13)

Ringo (0/13)

3 August 2012
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I'm goin to do a ranking of george, paul and john per album (no ringo because he would always be the last place (the place they are is also their points, the heatles with the fewest points wins if there are two first places both get 1.5 points, if there are two second places both get 2.5

Please Please Me:
1.5. Paul
1.5. John
3. George

With The Beatles:
1. John
2. George
3. Paul

A Hard Days Night:
1.5. Paul
1.5. John
3. George

Beatles For Sale:
1.5. Paul
1.5. John
3. George

Help!:
1.5. Paul
1.5. John
3. George

Rubber Soul:
1. John
2. Paul
3. George

Revolver:
1. Paul
2. George
3. John

Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band:
1. Paul
2. George
3. John

Magical Mystery Tour:
1. Paul
2. John
3. George

White Album:
1. Paul
2.5 George
2.5 John

Yellow Submarine:
1. John
2. George
3. Paul

Abbey Road:
1. Paul
2. George
3. John

Let It Be:
1. Paul
2. George
3. John

Paul: 20
John: 25,5
George: 32,5

Score:
1. Paul
2. John
3. George

My real ranking of all their songs:
1. Paul
2. George
3. John

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10 August 2012
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John dominates most albums, except for "Let it Be" and SPLHCB, which are Paul's; and "Rubber Soul/Revolver/Abbey Road", which are too hard for me to decide whose stuff is more awesome.

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11 August 2012
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This has been a fascinating thread to read…. and certainly shows how passionate people can be for The Beatles -- and for their favourite member of the band. But I always think that it sort of reduces the enjoyment and understanding of The Beatles' magic to a sporting competition ("who 'won' this album or that album?").  Not surprising, I suppose, since the band members themselves (especially John and Paul) admitted they were highly competitive.

I have been a Beatles' fan since the Ed Sullivan days, and my favourite Beatles have always been John Lennon & George Harrison.   Yet I cannot deny how huge Paul McCartney was to pretty much every recording.    

Convincing arguments can always be made for either Lennon or McCartney being the most important member of the band.   But what made The Beatles the biggest rock band in history was the incredible four-way chemistry.  If you don't believe it, then imagine how successful "Paul and the Pacemakers" or "John and the Pacemakers" would have been.  I doubt any of us would be talking about them the way we are today.  They'd have been big.. but not the biggest of all time.

A Hard Day's Night and Sgt Pepper are perfect examples of what I mean.   Based on quantity, John clearly "won" HARD DAY'S NIGHT -- Paul only sang lead on three compositions.  But those three ("And I Love Her", "Can't Buy Me Love" and "Things We Said Today") rank among the best songs on the album (along with John's "If I Fell", "You Can't Do That", "I'll Be Back" and the stunning title track).   

Likewise, Paul was clearly the "winner" of Sgt Pepper based on song output (and the whole concept of it).  But without John's contributions ("A Day In The Life", "Mr Kite", "Lucy in the Sky", "Good Morning" and his Greek chorus thing on "She's Leaving Home"), the album becomes VERY ordinary, in my opinion.   

As for George, I could easily argue that the most memorable songs on Abbey Road and THE BEATLES were his ("Something", "Here Comes The Sun" & "Guitar Gently Weeps") so perhaps George "won" those albums, despite being vastly outnumbered, as always, by Paul & John.   

And when we're talking about George's contribution to the songs, it's interesting (and very heartwarming) to read what Paul had to say about them in an interview with "Mojo" last year.  For instance, George came up with the memorable acoustic intro to one of Paul's great ballads "And I Love Her" -- Paul's concept of the song is the version you hear on Anthology 1.  As Paul said, the released version wouldn't be the same without George's contribution. 

(Read interview:   http://www.mojo4music.com/blog…..n_eye.html ).  

(Part two is also very interesting:   http://www.mojo4music.com/blog…..harri.html )

And then there's Ringo, who rarely gets the appreciation he deserves for his inventive and distinctive drumming.   Again, I don't think The Beatles would have had the same magic or impact with Pete Best occupying the drummer's stool.   

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The Beatles catalogue wouldnt have anywhere as good with any other drummer. I realise that the band wasnt fully developed for the Sheridan, Decca or first Parlophone recordings but there is something lacking in the drumming, a drive/impetus that Ringo provided. Most people point to Please Please Me as the earliest example but Love Me Do has also been highlighted for how different a feel Ringo gave, very different to what was around at the time (probably in hindsight tho as a) the Ringo drumming single was substituted for the White drumming early on and b) the single made little wave outside of Liverpool). Even omitting all that Ringo was viewed as the best drummer in all of Liverpool ahead of Pete.

Any idea that Ringo isnt an excellent drummer is borne out of stubborn refusal bordering on stupidity – like denying Hendrix was an excellent guitarist or saying Usain Bolt is a mediocre athlete.

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13 August 2012
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I have another idea: strongest album per beatle. I'll do a ranking:

I don't count their first 4 albums and yellow submarine because on them all beatles are pretty weak

Paul:
1. Abbey Road
2. Let It Be
3. White Album
4. Revolver
5. Magical Mystery Tour
6. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band
7. Help!
8. Rubber Soul

John:
1. Rubber Soul
2. White Album
3. Abbey Road
3. Let It Be
5. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band
5. Magical Mystery Tour
7. Help!
8. Revolver

George:

1. Abbey Road
2. White Album
3. Let It Be
4. Rubber Soul
5. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band
6. Revolver
7. Magical Mystery Tour
8. Help!

Ringo:
1. Let It Be (because he didn't sing; sorry ringo)
1. Magical Mystery Tour (the same)
3. Abbey Road
4. Rubber Soul
5. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band
6. White Album
7. Help!
8. Revolver

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Please Please Me : John his vocals on Twist And Shout are enough to show why

with the beatles: Paul; just edging it over john for me mainly due to All My Loving and til there was you

a hards day night: John; well this album is really john lennon and the beatles with 9 of the 13 songs sang by john

beatles for sale: John; the opening trilogy of songs proves it

help: John; just edges it over paul mainly due to you've got to hid your love away 

Rubber Soul: heres where it get difficult but im going to go for George; mainly because his songwriting has massively improved, bringing his indian interest to the band and i love his guitar solo on Michelle

revolver: could argue for john, paul and george here (sorry ringo) but i will have to go for Paul; his song writing here is just amazing and the bass and guitar bit for taxman out of this world

Sgt Pepper: although its was pauls concept il go for John; the songs he contributed here are so experimental and different and his vocal on A Day In The Life possibly his finest ever 

Magical Mystery Tour: Paul; easily 

the White Album: oh boy who to choose, il think il go for John; just over paul 

let it be: Paul; easily paul the only beatle at this stage who was interested 

Abbey Road: the toughest one of the lot, you can easily argue for john for writing classics like i want you and come together, george for hitting his songwriting peak and paul for the fantastic medley and his outstanding bass playing so ima go for Paul and George  

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I think I may have posted here already, but if I have, we can disregard it..

PPM: Even John/Paul; no one of them came up as the strongest here.

WTB: John/George; I actually like all the songs on here sung by George, but I'm biased for him as is. These are my opinions after all.

HDN: John obviously takes this one, but Paul's contributions to this album don't leave him in the dust.

WTB: Paul, just because of some songs I don't especially love by John on this album.. (not a massive fan of No Reply or Moonlight)

RS: I'll give all three to Rubber Soul. This one is close to me. They all have great contributions to the album.

R: George, John/Paul tied right behind. All made amazing contributions, but not only George's compositions but his (along with John ((and Paul's)) guitar work are amazing.

SP: This is definitely Paul, but John had a fewer amount of compositions that were stronger individually. George's song deserves credit as well.

MMT: Paul.. his idea, and I don't think John or George cared that much about this project anyway.

TB: Wow, this is a hard one. This is another John/George tie.

YS: Both of George's contributions in this album are especially nice, but John's song qualifies as 2 or more. I give it to George.

AR: George deserves this one, but Paul's medley gives him the tie.

LIB: Almost forgot about this one. I would be more inclined to give it to John if Don't Let Me Down would have been included, so I'll do a Paul followed by John/George. Although I don't like 2 of the songs by Paul, I like the other 3 or so and I figure he deserves it.

 

So let's see, assuming the reward is 1pt for the full album, and half for part of it.

John: 3

Paul: 5.5

George: 4

Although this goes by which songs I like and dislike, instead of what I think are good or bad from an unbiased point-of-view. Paul did get a good lead due to having a lot of the albums by himself. I'm tempted now to make Revolver a three-way tie as well, or give all of Abbey Road to George, but I think this will work. 

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John was the strongest Beatle on most of the earlier albums, while Paul was the strongest on most of the later albums because of the change in leadership. Exceptions below:

With the Beatles-George sings 3 songs plus You Really Got A Hold On Me w/ John, so it's a tie between the two

Revolver-George also had 3 songs, and his songs improved greatly

White Album-John went back to basic music, and George was better than ever

Yellow Sub-the new songs on the album were the Beatles idea of throwaway songs, but George's were the best

Abbey Road-John and Paul threw together some old stuff while George wrote Here Comes The Sun, and changed everyone's opinion about Something

I'm sorry…George is my favorite!a-hard-days-night-george-2

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Please Please Me- This is pretty close, but Lennon

With the Beatles- Much as I love All My Loving, Devil In Her Heart and Don't Bother Me, its gotta be Lennon again

A Hard Day's Night- Things We Said Today is fantastic, but for sheer output, Lennon

Beatles For Sale- Getting closer but Lennon again

Help!- Close…McCartney

Rubber Soul- Lennon

Revolver- McCartney

Sgt Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band- McCartney

The White Album- McCartney

Yellow Submarine- Umm…Lennon

Abbey Road- Pretty close, but McCartney

Let It Be- McCartney

 

6 each. I thought I'd come down more on the McCartney side. I feel a bit bad for not giving any to George but the fact is, he only has 2 or 3 songs per album, 4 at best so in my opinion he can never be the best on any album. But you're still my favourite Georgie ahdn_george_06

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