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Ranking The Beatles' official studio albums
22 May 2012
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GeorgeTSimpson said
Help: That Means A Lot (instead of Dizzy Miss Lizzy)

I like That Means A Lot but it's always struck me as a sort of watered-down McCartney-style Ticket To Ride (I've often wondered whether these two songs shared a songwriting genesis of sorts, perhaps John and Paul both trying to create a song with that beat), and the production of the take on the Anthology is abysmal. But I'd agree it would be a suitable replacement for Dizzy Miss Lizzy, which is certainly the worst song on Help!

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22 May 2012
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That Means A Lot would have to be rererecorded for it to be included in Help and the outtakes from the second recording attempt show that they had no idea how to do so. Would agree with Ben Ramon that it has too similar a feel to Ticket To Ride, possibly why they did the remake in the first place.

If You Got Trouble was a terrible song and all 4 knew it, Ringo's "aw rock on anybody" is a very telling comment.

Neither song is helped by their mixes on Anthology 2

Maybe its the running order but Help! side 2 works well UNTIL you hit Dizzy Miss Lizzy. Its a very good rock and roll song but its placement is wrong, one of the only times when a track is damaged by where it is. George Martin probably didnt know what to do with it.

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22 May 2012
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13: Yellow Submarine (one of Paul's and two of George's worst, with a single worthwhile track by John. Moneyspinning at work)

12: Help! (Only seven good tracks on it! Some really annoying tracks on here, and other fillery ones too. Dizzy Miss Lizzy is George's worst guitar performance in canon)

11: With The Beatles (Ringo's stock rhythm – the same beat for nine of the tracks – isn't working for me and the songs just aren't up to scratch as a whole, except Don't Bother Me, Hold Me Tight, All My Loving and It Won't Be Long)

10: The White Album (Badly recorded, and with Paul's awful Fender VI taking plunky charge of the bass on some of it, the good songs are let down and the bad ones just stink. Bungalow Bill is more gross than…)

9: A Hard Day's Night (John narrowly fails to pick up the slack left by Paul only offering three tracks. Not bad, but kind of erratic)

8: Please Please Me (an energetic and wholly enjoyable album showing their craft not quite matured except on the stunning There's A Place)

7: Beatles For Sale (Less than the sum of its parts, it's an underrated album, but I love Eight Days A Week especially and the folksiness of the whole thing. Effects and writing start to take real shape here)

6: Magical Mystery Tour (B-side amazing, A-side has two stinkers that tarnish it – Flying and Blue Jay Way)

5: Rubber Soul (Paul and George really start to shine here, with only two weak tracks – Run For Your Life and What Goes On)

4: Let It Be (The songs are just so good! Forget the production (which I like) and listen to the SONGS, they're almost all great! Underrated to hell, except Dig It, Maggie Mae and For You Blue)

3: Revolver (a little overrated – I said a LITTLE – but still full of great tracks)

2: Sgt. Pepper (just amazing)

1: Abbey Road (despite everything, it sounds like they are – gasp – working together! Love all the songs except for John's medley pieces)

23 May 2012
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very tough decision:

13:yellow submarine: songtrack album is great the real album not so

12. beatles for sale: originals are great covers are abit of dull(except rock n roll music)

11.help: for me a lot of filler on this album but has some classics

10.Please Please Me: very important album for the beatles but some songs are abit dull

9:let it be: spectors producton works welll on some songs not so on others

8: with the beatles: very underrated

7:Magical Mystery Tour: a great psychedelic album

6. a hards day night: fantastic album not a bad song the development of the beatles started here

5. Sgt Pepper: seen as there masterpiece contains the best song ever written imo in A Day In The Life

4. the White Album: so diverse disc 1 is great disc 2 lets it down abit for me

3. Abbey Road: putting the differences aside to create one of the greatest albums ever, the medley rules

2. Rubber Soul: the first album were people really took notice of the beatles as musicians, fantastic songs and a great vibe to this album

1. revolver: way ahead of its time, showed the differences between the beatles, paul as the melodic one with masterpieces such as eleanor ridgy and Here There And Everywhere. john as the experimental one with she said, im only sleeping Tomorrow Never Knows etc. george indian interests from  Love You To, to pauls fantastic indian style guitar playing on taxman, and ringo as the beatle the kids will love with yellow submarine. imo this is the greatest album ever made.

 

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23 May 2012
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I'll throw in a defense of "Dizzy Miss Lizzie" – always one of my faves.

When I pick up a guitar, I'm not unlikely to play either the bass or the lead guitar riff just to get warmed up. Wish I had four hands to play both at the same time. [On the Live at the Hollywood Bowl album, Paul plays a slightly different bass riff which works too]

 

I'll digress a little further: although this thread concerns the studio albums, if someone were to say to me, "I have no Beatle songs or albums, what should I start with?" I'd answer Past Masters 1 & 2.

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24 May 2012
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sweetsf said

Sgt Pepper – George Martin's admitted his biggest regret was taking off Penny Lane/Strawberry Fields.  So, yes yes yes.  Add PL and SFF, and chop out 'Lovely Rita' (doesn't really fit with the album) and 'Good Morning' (John admitted he hated this song).  PL in the middle of side 2, move 'Kite' to side 2 as well.  Put SFF at the end of side 1 because of the length and the fade out. Only 'Goodnight' could follow that. lol

I must disagree. 'Penny Lane/Strawberry Fields' are superb and fit well chronologically. But IMHO ''Lovely Rita' and 'GM GM' are classic vocal performances by John, have great hooks and both fit very well on Sgt Pepper style-wise. And does 'Lovely Rita' deal with such different subjects than those of 'Penny Lane'? They certainly fit with Sgt Pepper better than 'Within You Without You' (apologies to George) which might be better on a later album. And at over 5 minutes, removal of WYWY alone might free up enough space to fit both 'Penny Lane' and 'Strawberry Fields'.

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AutomaticButt said

10: The White Album (Badly recorded, and with Paul's awful Fender VI taking plunky charge of the bass on some of it, the good songs are let down and the bad ones just stink. Bungalow Bill is more gross than…)

Wow, as a bassist I've always really admired Paul's tone and playing on the White Album, a really heavy, "dirty" sound for 1968 (double-tracked in a few places too) which I think contributes a lot to the feel of the album. But to each his own, obviously! :)

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24 May 2012
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LTJX said

I must disagree. 'Penny Lane/Strawberry Fields' are superb and fit well chronologically. But IMHO ''Lovely Rita' and 'GM GM' are classic vocal performances by John, have great hooks and both fit very well on Sgt Pepper style-wise. And does 'Lovely Rita' deal with such different subjects than those of 'Penny Lane'? They certainly fit with Sgt Pepper better than 'Within You Without You' (apologies to George) which might be better on a later album. And at over 5 minutes, removal of WYWY alone might free up enough space to fit both 'Penny Lane' and 'Strawberry Fields'.

Pepper wouldnt work as well as it does without WYWY. The songs thought-provoking lyrics and indian musicianship add another texture of colour and flavour that if removed would leave the album a little more bland. Most people overlook it (i used to skip it but not now – just the first 2 songs) and i get way but its place on Pepper should not be in question (plus its a george vocal, he has to have at least one lead, and its far better than Only A Northern Song). If you cant stand the lyrics, skip to the instrumental section, turn your speakers up as loud as possible, close your eyes, and let the musicians take you elsewhere. The solo has to be one of the greatest on any beatles song.

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31 May 2012
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AutomaticButt said
12: Help! (Only seven good tracks on it! Some really annoying tracks on here, and other fillery ones too. Dizzy Miss Lizzy is George's worst guitar performance in canon)

10: The White Album (Badly recorded, and with Paul's awful Fender VI taking plunky charge of the bass on some of it, the good songs are let down and the bad ones just stink. Bungalow Bill is more gross than…)

1: Abbey Road (despite everything, it sounds like they are – gasp – working together! Love all the songs except for John's medley pieces)

I love that guitar riff on "Dizzy Miss Lizzy" and the song itself. "The White Album", badly recorded?! Are you kidding me. There was two basses with that plucky "clicking" sound, the Fender IV (John/George) and Fender Jazz Bass (Paul). As a bassist, I can say it really works with the songs they were used on (especially "Yer Blues"). "The Continuing Story Of Bungalow Bill" are the weakest Beatles song in my opinion, no fan of it.

John's medley pieces ("Sun King", "Mean Mr. Mustard" and "Polythene Pam") are really good – marked FAB!

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Here goes:

(Disclaimer: All statements below of quality of song or album is totally my opinion, and should be taken as such.)

13) Yellow Submarine – four songs doesn't an album make.

12) Beatles For Sale – on a song by song basis, it probably isn't their worst full album, but it has this depressing quality I can't get over. Though the first 3 songs are fantastic.

11) With The Beatles – although this has my favourite cover (You've Really Got A Hold On Me), it has some filler. Hold Me Tight and I Wanna Be Your Man are not up to the standards.

10) Help! – It's like WTB. It has some good songs (You're Gonna Lose That Girl, Help), but Dizzie Miss Lizzy and Act Naturally keep it back here.

9) Let It Be – Even though I prefer Spector's version, it still only has 10 proper songs, but those 10 are generally high quality, especially The Long And Winding Road. It's saying something that this is 9.

8) Please Please Me – 6 months ago, I'd say this was the best debut album ever. While I wouldn't go that far now, it's still bloody good.

7) A Hard Day's Night – this is Lennon's peak as a Beatle, I'd say. It has loads of great songs, and it also has my possibly favourite Paul song, And I Love Her.

6) Sgt. Pepper – Even though it has one of the best songs ever (A Day In The Life), it is still, somehow, not as good to me as Magical Mystery Tour.

5) Magical Mystery Tour – With the film songs being generally good, it took side two (with I Am The Walrus) to lift this album. It did. It has the best 4 song string in any Beatles album (Strawberry Fields to All You Need Is Love), and it takes a lot to beat Pepper. This does.

4) White Album – it's not song for song this strong of an album, but when I listen to it cover to cover, it is fantastic. It really shouldn't be one album.

3) Abbey Road – the medley is absolutely fantastic. And frankly, the whole album is beautiful. You Never Give Me Your Money is Paul's greatest masterpiece.

2) Revolver – I used to think this was the their best album. And it is still a ridiculously awesome album, with the stinging satire of Taxman to the Indian awesomeness of Love You To, through She Said She Said's total wickedness, to Tomorrow Never Knows' total epicness.

1) Rubber Soul – It may not be stronger then Revolver, but I prefer it. With Michelle, Norwegian Wood, In My Life and Think For Yourself, this is the slightest bit better then Revolver – and that's saying something.

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Was listening to Come Together and then Something and it hit me that its up for debate which album is the Beatles greatest, not just here but in articles all around the word and in so many other places and ways and discussions.

That a band can put out Abbey Road and its up for discussion is quite frankly staggering, and the same can be said for Pepper, Revolver, Rubber Soul and The White Album. Nearly every band in existance would be content to have made an lp as good as A Hard Days Night so for there to be 4 or 5 others that are generally seen to be better is insane. Most artists cant even hit a Beatles For Sale standard (which i love but is generally knocked as not being very good Beatlewise).

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"Into the Sky with Diamonds" said

Would your opinions change if the singles released at the time of the albums had been included in the albums?

-If "She Loves You" and "I Want To Hold Your Hand" had been on With the Beatles instead of  xxxx ?

-If "Day Tripper" and "We Can Work It Out" had been on Rubber Soul instead of xxx?

- "Rain" and "Paperbook Writer" on Revolver?

- "Strawberry Fields" and "Penny Lane" on Sgt Pepper?

I don't think this should be discussed the Beatles followed the rules until Sgt. Pepper. All of them had 14 tracks (except for AHDN which has 13 because Ringo couldn't sing the day when they were gonna record Ringo's song), no more discussions.

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1)  Abbey Road -- Immaculate -- pure artistry -- and a band that could rock

2)  REVOLVER  -- the most democratic Beatles album (5 Lennon, 5 McCartney, 3 Harrison -- and Ringo):  containing edgy rock, lush romanticism, an all-out acid trip, raga-rock and a kiddytoon.

3)  Rubber Soul -- pop craftsmanship at its finest, and maybe John Lennon's finest work

4)  Magical Mystery Tour -- a Capitol Records creation rather than a true Beatles album, but a darn good one

5)  THE BEATLES  -- a weird and wonderful masterpiece in white (I could easily bump this up to #2, depending on my mood)

6)  A HARD DAYS NIGHT -- the only all Lennon-McCartney album in the original 13 -- great songs, great sounds, and George's 12-string

7)  Please Please Me -- a great little rock-and-roll band starting out -- with no frills, no gimmicks, just talent to burn

8)  WITH THE BEATLES -- more great early Beatles gems (espy "All My Loving"), with a couple of duds

9)  Sgt Pepper'S LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND -- ground-breaking, amazing, a technical marvel -- but song-for-song not really their best work (except for "A Day In The Life", which is monumental!)

10)  LET IT BE -- any album that contains "Two of Us", "Get Back", "Across The Universe" and "Let It Be" is worth having -- a little thin in places, but still a pretty darn good album

11)  HELP! -- another pretty good album, showing a growing maturity in the band, but some of the songs are a bit -- well -- ordinary, at least by Beatles' standards

12)  BEATLES FOR SALE -- too many covers for my liking, although a couple are pretty good -- not a bad album by any means, but compared with the rest of their work, it's a bit thin

13)  YELLOW SUBMARINE -- sorry George Martin, your orchestral stuff on side two is pretty, but as "Rolling Stone" Magazine said, it's the least-cared-about part of any Beatles album -- only four new Beatles songs, and only two of those ("It's All Too Much" and the terrific "Hey Bulldog") rank in the band's top 100 songs in my opinion

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IMDeWalrus said, "Magical Mystery Tour — a Capitol Records creation rather than a true Beatles album, but a darn good one"

Mr Sun King CT said, "Magical Mystery Tour – With the film songs being generally good, it took side two (with I Am The Walrus) to lift this album. It did. It has the best 4 song string in any Beatles album (Strawberry Fields to All You Need Is Love), and it takes a lot to beat Pepper. This does."

                                                                                                          [small detail: on my album, I Am The Walrus ends Side 1]

Magical Mystery Tour is really Past Masters 0.5   

Yes, of course the addition of "Strawberry Fields," "Penny Lane," and "All You Need Is Love" elevates the album to great heights – but it's purely artificial.

IMO, if you're gonna rank MMT you have to either

- just use the British EP  or

- allow Past Masters 1 and 2 into your ranking ….

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Into the Sky with Diamonds said, "IMO, if you're gonna rank MMT you have to either

- just use the British EP  or

- allow Past Masters 1 and 2 into your ranking …."

 

Good point -- if I was to rank MMT in its original form (a double EP), it would drop well down the list -- then again, I'd probably also have to include the EP  "Long Tall Sally" which contains songs otherwise unavailable to that point -- and perhaps the British LP  "A Collection of Beatles Oldies" -- so I'll just leave my list as is. 

If I included the two Past Masters CD's in my list, they would rank very high indeed. 

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If MMT was rated based on the ep it would be quite low with only I Am The Walrus being exceptional and The Fool On The Hill excellent, all the rest are average. Wait i list MMT at #12 out of 13 anyway; IATW, SFF, TFOTH, BYARM: 2 exceptional 2 excellent. Yeah still #12.a-hard-days-night-ringo-7

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13. Yellow Submarine

12. Beatles For Sale

11. Magical Mystery Tour

10. With The Beatles

9. Let It Be

8. Please Please Me

7. Help!

6. The Beatles

5. A Hard Day's Night

4. Abbey Road

3. Revolver

2. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band

1. Rubber Soul

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13) Yellow Submarine: "Hey Bulldog" is about the only memorable song on the album for me. The actual song "Yellow Submarine" may be a classic in the world of Beatles music, but it can also be found on Revolover. So the big, yellow ship gets last place for me.

12) Magical Mystery Tour: Highlights of the album include "I Am The Walrus", "Strawberry Fields Forever", and "All You Need Is Love", but the album as a whole feels more like a collection of singles rather than an album with a nice, artistic flow of songs (as demonstrated in Sgt. Pepper just before its release).

11) Please Please Me: Although this was my first Beatles album (and will therefore always hold a special place in my heart), The Beatles just get better and better as the years go on, don't they? Songs that I quite enjoy include"I Saw Her Standing There", "Please Please Me", "P.S. I Love You", and "Twist And Shout".

10) A Hard Day's Night: For some reason, I have always been a sucker for John's harmonica playing. And AHDN? Well, it has a lot of John's "harmonica songs" haha. That put aside, I still find my favorite song on the album to be Paul's "And I Love Her".

09) Beatles For Sale: SOLD! I really enjoy this album, but I find myself being more drawn to their mid-to-late period music. "No Reply" is an excellent kick-off for the album and "I'll Follow The Sun" is definitely one of my favorite karaoke songs, but just as I said for PPM: The Beatles just get better and better…

08) Help!: It may be my favorite Beatles movie, but the album itself just doesn't do it for me. Don't get me wrong, some of my favorite tracks are on it: "Help!", "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away", "Ticket To Ride", and "I've Just Seen A Face"; but it has too many lowlights. These are mainly George's contributions (sorry, George fans; I just think he hadn't hit his songwriting peak quite yet…). But I believe the singles that came from this album were some of their best in the end.

07) Let It Be…Naked: Sorry I had to rank mine as the Naked version, but that's unfortunately the only version I have of this album (…right now: I'll get LIB one of these days!). I love the version of "Across The Universe" that was chosen for this album: it really makes it easy to see why John ranked this song as one of the best, if not the best, songs he ever wrote. Another I really enjoy is "Two Of Us" because it's just a feel-good song and (to Paul's delight) is an excellent song to listen to in the car. "Don't Let Me Down" is one of my favorite songs from John: the emotion and raw energy is enough to send chills up my spine. And finally, "I've Got A Feeling" just makes me have a good feeling whenever I listen to it. Great song.

06) The Beatles: Too many great songs to even start mentioning them.

05) With The Beatles: My favorite album from their early period. The energy is fantastic and their songwriting had already improved from the few songs they contributed to PPM. "All My Loving" and "It Won't Be Long" serve as proof of that. As far as covers go, George did an excellent job on "Roll Over Beethoven" and John's take on "Please Mister Postman" made a cover one of my favorite Beatles songs.

04) Revolver: Like George said, Rubber Soul and Revolver could have been the same album with two volumes. However, I'm more of a Volume One type of gal. Highlights of the album include "Eleanor Rigby", "I'm Only Sleeping", "Here, There And Everywhere", and "Taxman" (one of my favorite George songs).

03) Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band: You can just hear why this album was such a stepping stone for The Beatles…and for the music industry PERIOD. Long story short, I love this album!

02) Rubber Soul: When you have an album with personal favorites such as "Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown", "Nowhere Man", "Girl", and "In My Life", how can it not be one of your favorite albums?

01) Abbey Road: Winner!!! To me, it just felt like the end. But what a great finale!

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Dipsy said: 07) Let It Be…Naked: Sorry I had to rank mine as the Naked version, but that's unfortunately the only version I have of this album (…right now: I'll get LIB one of these days!). I love the version of "Across The Universe" that was chosen for this album: it really makes it easy to see why John ranked this song as one of the best, if not the best, songs he ever wrote. Another I really enjoy is "Two Of Us" because it's just a feel-good song and (to Paul's delight) is an excellent song to listen to in the car. "Don't Let Me Down" is one of my favorite songs from John: the emotion and raw energy is enough to send chills up my spine. And finally, "I've Got A Feeling" just makes me have a good feeling whenever I listen to it. Great song.

If you're a real beatles fan (collector), like me, buy let it be because you need it for your collection but if you just want to listen to the music you only need Let It Be… Naked. Naked is a much better album than let it be, spector's orchestra doesn't sound very good on the three songs which feature them on let it be and I don't like the dialogue snippets before (or after) the songs, because if I want to hear dialogue from the get back sessions I can listen to the fly on the wall disc included on let it be… naked and they annoy me when I want to listen to the songs. Of course it's a must-have for a beatles collector but (for example) I never listen to it, I just listen to Naked.

Anyway I agree with Abbey Road on number 1, it's also my favourite album

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8Oh, totally agreed! I have every intention of buying Let It Be sometime in the future. I just don't have it yet. And although many fans seem to enjoy Naked more, I want LIB strictly for collection purposes (as you stated).

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