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Mono Vinyl Boxset
17 June 2014
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@Bongo said

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I think it's cool that they're numbering the White Album's!

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ahdn_paul_06 All white albums have an individual serial code 

like this one

Only the first run had the serial numbers and were Top Loading LP's.  The next issues after were numberless. and side loading.

Even the the 2012 Stereo releases were not numbered.

 

This new mono set will be interesting if they are numbered starting @ 900000001

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There were a little over three million numbered White Albums pressed, although there were various pressing plants in the US and UK which meant numbers were repeated. It'd be interesting to know how they handle the numbering, as it might spark a gold rush for low numbers.

@Bongo the 2012 stereo vinyl releases weren't really replicas of the 60s originals, just as the 2009 CDs weren't either. They didn't have fold-over sleeves or correct inner sleeves for a start. The mono CDs did though, and the vinyl ones will too. I get the impression they're trying to make these as authentic as possible.

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18 June 2014
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That was my biggest disappointment that neither set (2009 CD - 2012 LP)'s were not replica's.  But thankfully Joe, it did make me buy the Original UK Lp's and I ended up selling all the other extra stuff like CD's, DVD's since I didn't really need all this extra stuff I was hooked on buying.

And ya, I agree that White LP will spark a frenzy, but I'm happy with my Original Top Loading 0123459 copy.

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 So close to 0123456!

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@Bongo There was the 30th anniversary CD limited edition, which was a total replica - down to being numbered and top loading, with all inserts. So, not just the original vinyl that was numbered.

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19 June 2014
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This is one set I have no interest in. I'm sure there will be problems with the pressings just like the stereo set, with people complaining and returning the boxes three or four times.

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20 June 2014
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Ron Nasty said
@Bongo There was the 30th anniversary CD limited edition, which was a total replica - down to being numbered and top loading, with all inserts. So, not just the original vinyl that was numbered.

Really? I was not aware of these being individually numbered Ron?  They must be worth a few bucks???  And no I'm not going to buy one! apple01

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a-hard-days-night-ringo-8 So close to 0123456!

Ya, but not as impressive as this one

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Bongo said

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Does anyone know if a Mono Vinyl Boxset is being planned?

I considered getting the Mono CD's but since they are like mini LP's, I thought why not get a proper LP. 

Strangely enough what people are payin' for the 2012 stereo LP set and this 2014 mono LP set, you could just buy the Original UK LPs on Ebay, Discogs, Amazon Uk and other sources.  Why not have the real Mccoy as the Beatles originally released them instead of these Apple cash cows????

Of course if your an analog turntable junky, you just can't beat 180 grams of pure Virgin Vinyl!!!!

@Mr Bellamy, from the press release, the difference between the mono cd set and the upcoming vinyl set:

While The Beatles In Mono CD boxed set released in 2009 was created from digital remasters, for this new vinyl project, Magee and Berkowitz cut the records without using any digital technology.  Instead, they employed the same procedures used in the 1960s, guided by the original albums and by detailed transfer notes made by the original cutting engineers. 

@Bongo, the mono vinyl set is retailing for 374 USD (or thereabouts).  A decent (low collector quality) Revolver will set you back over 50USD, so unless you buy beat up copies (with which there's nothing wrong), the originals will cost more than the new set.  These might be cheaper in the UK than the states...and of course, they'll be originals.

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Matt, I said if you bought both the 2012 stereo set "and" the new 2014 mono set, then you would have paid more than getting Original 60's UK LPs.

I suggest everyone take their time and buy good copies of the originals, like I did and own the real thing!

Another point now is this new mono set is full analog, while the 2012 stereo LPs were digital.  So now people will want the stereo sets to be analog too, so look for more re-re-issues in the future.  And don't forget to ad taxes to those purchases.

 

But again, like I mentioned, it's hard to beat 180 grams of pure virgin vinyl.....yoko-ono_01

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So is the fact that it's not being digitally processed in any way the reason it costs so much? Because I didn't understand why the mono set is going to cost me more than than the stereo set did considering it has less content. I'm about 90% the 2012 stereo set only cost $250 when it came out.

 

P. S. Does anyone know of any plans to make the US albums vinyl set after this? Also, something I wasn't aware was coming out was the Japanese CD set. Will they be making the Japanese vinyl set after that?? Will this just keep going and going???

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24 June 2014
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@The Strawberry, I would suggest that part of the price is down to the packaging. As Joe says above:

the 2012 stereo vinyl releases weren't really replicas of the 60s originals, just as the 2009 CDs weren't either. They didn't have fold-over sleeves or correct inner sleeves for a start... I get the impression they're trying to make these as authentic as possible.

I know many were very disappointed that the packaging of the 2012 stereo vinyl didn't replicate the original packaging, and there were also complaints about the quality. It seems that with the mono they are after top quality reproductions of the original releases. They've listened to the complaints about the 2012 stereo, and seem to have addressed them (obviously, we can't tell how well until it's in our grubby little mitts), but that obviously involves extra cost - which gets passed on to us.

I doubt the US or Japanese boxes will see vinyl releases, especially as both mainly use the 2009 remixes.

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Don't know whether this has been linked to yet, but was reading Analog Planet's article on the making of the mono, which includes a visit to Abbey Road to watch The White Album being cut. Well worth a read.

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24 June 2014
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Thanks for that link, Mark...the mono box set is my favorite way to listen to the Beatles, it blew my mind and that was after a lifetime of listening to the old 1987 CDs and my parents old vinyl for 20+ years. This vinyl box looks to be as good!

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24 June 2014
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Bongo said

Mr Bellamy said
Does anyone know if a Mono Vinyl Boxset is being planned?

I considered getting the Mono CD's but since they are like mini LP's, I thought why not get a proper LP. 

Strangely enough what people are payin' for the 2012 stereo LP set and this 2014 mono LP set, you could just buy the Original UK LPs on Ebay, Discogs, Amazon Uk and other sources.  Why not have the real Mccoy as the Beatles originally released them instead of these Apple cash cows????

I just read this article, which you (and others) might enjoy: "I bet that I can buy the original Beatles records on vinyl for less than the cost of the new stereo box set on Amazon."

It's quite long but well written. I might have to start going to record fairs again - it's been years since I last went to one. I have gaps in my vinyl collection that need filling.

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[SNIP!]
I just read this article, which you (and others) might enjoy: "I bet that I can buy the original Beatles records on vinyl for less than the cost of the new stereo box set on Amazon."

[SNIP!]

That all depends on cost and record quality but there may well be some truth to this article.

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26 June 2014
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Joe, regarding that article, I just spent 2 months doing just that.  Between Ebay, Discogs & Amazon U.K., I completed the whole original UK set.  All in VG, - VG+ condition.  

 Now of course they were not all first press releases, but they were all flip back covers with Yellow Parlophone mono LPS, and the Apple: White, Yellow Sub, Let it Be & Abbey Road stereo LPs.  All Originals.  And it came out to a little over $800 Canadian. Of course I could have spent a whole lot more if I wanted to......

When those 2012 LPs came out they were $400 + tax in Canada, and the same with the new mono set coming out, will be $400 + tax.

So it can be done.  It can be done for cheaper for crappier copies, and it can be done for a whole lot more $$$ for near mint copies, but I'm sooooo happy I did it this way.

The bonus is that I sold my 2012 set for more than I paid for it, and kept the nice big Black Box that my originals are now kept in, along with (3 original unique only to Canada) original LPS,  plus the original Canadian Magical Mystery Tour Album.

 

I highly recommend people do this instead, but again, you can't argue with 180 gram pure virgin vinyl! 

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27 June 2014
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TBH I might buy the new box set and get the other original monos I need as well. I'm only missing Rubber Soul, Revolver, White Album and Yellow Submarine. I think I might have a 70s reissue of AHDN as well, not sure. The one I might have trouble getting hold of is the White Album with all the inserts and black inner sleeves, but I'm sure it can be done.

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^Yellow Submarine wasn't released in true mono, only a fold down (I'm sure you know that :-D)

 

IIRC, it was only the first UK pressing of the White Album that had the black inner sleeves, yes?

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TBH I might buy the new box set and get the other original monos  The one I might have trouble getting hold of is the White Album with all the inserts and black inner sleeves, but I'm sure it can be done.

Ya, that one is the most expensive one to buy, in Stereo or Mono, and again depending how much you wan't to pay for quality and low number, followed by Sgt. Pepper.  There seems to be a premium on those 2 titles.  Also Yellow Sub with the red lines on the rear cover is a little pricey, especially since it's hardly a great LP.

The rest are relatively cheap compared.  The biggest expense is shipping from the UK!

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