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Best albums of the solo years.
13 August 2013
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Von Bontee
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McCartney II's been in retroactive critical resurgence lately! Check out the poll at I Love Music:

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/Threa…..247#unread

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I think McCartney II ranks highly there because it stands out as an "unpredictable" record in a very "predictable" period. While albums like Cloud Nine, Double Fantasy and Tug of War are strong records song-for-song, they all undeniably show the ex-Beatles no longer willing to really push boundaries; they're just lucky shots in a decade where their relevance was waning somewhat and they were trying their best to stay afloat with a commercial sound. People now look back fondly on McCartney II because it's non-conformist, lovably weird and not necessarily a huge success; in this era of championing the somewhat esoteric, people can accept that the weird underdog is ultimately more fun than the big hit.

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18 August 2013
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For the four months this topic has been around, I finally got my solo albums yesterday! I got Imagine, All Things Must Pass, Band on the Run and Ringo.

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18 August 2013
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Ringo is a fun album!  Most bands would be proud to have it as their best piece of work.

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18 August 2013
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Is it? Maybe I should give a try listening to it then. Just checked out the tracklist and I practically know side 1 except for Have You Seen My Baby and then I know the 1991 reissue bonustracks so I just have to check out side 2 of the album. I like what I've heard so far though! I also like how there's a song credited to ''Harrison/Mal Evans'' too!

 

19 August 2013
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Recently revisited Ringo (the lp) and it is incredibly strong, easily one of the most consistent solo Beatles albums. Step Lightly was immediately added as one of my fave songs, love Ringo's vocal on that but his vocals throughout are great. Would love to see an extended 40 year release with outtakes and remasters, it would be fully deserved.

Anyone who has an anti-Ringo stance and thinks all of his music is rubbish should leave it aside for 40 odd minutes and listen to this, they'd be pleasantly surprised.

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19 August 2013
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meanmistermustard said
Recently revisited Ringo (the lp) and it is incredibly strong, easily one of the most consistent solo Beatles albums. Step Lightly was immediately added as one of my fave songs, love Ringo's vocal on that but his vocals throughout are great. Would love to see an extended 40 year release with outtakes and remasters, it would be fully deserved.

Anyone who has an anti-Ringo stance and thinks all of his music is rubbish should leave it aside for 40 odd minutes and listen to this, they'd be pleasantly surprised.

Of the solo records I own, I find that Ringo's are the most fun to listen to. Beaucoups of Blues is great, Time Takes Time is excellent as well. I've actually have not heard Ringo outside from the hits and "I'm the Greatest," so I need to catch on with that one.

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19 August 2013
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Still searching for a copy of ATMP, think I'll have to get it off the internet for Christmas. George's music is ridiculously hard to find (in Ireland anyways) hell I went to Germany+Italy and couldn't find it in stores. I did find overpriced copies of Dark Horse, Somewhere in England and The Early Takes part 1 for €18 each though

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19 August 2013
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Really? I always thought his music would be hard to find here as well, but recently I walked into a bookshop (that's the only store in my city which sells CDs. Sad but true. All the others have gone bankrupt) and one of the first albums I saw was All Things Must Pass. No others though. 

19 August 2013
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mja6758 said
George's solo career, after its magnificent start with All Things Must Pass, rapidly passed into mediocrity. Sadly, the majority of George's best songs were written while he was a Beatle, or in the immediate aftermath. There is a reason ATMP is such a strong album, it's because George had a backlog of songs that John and Paul didn't give serious enough consideration to for Beatles albums.

In that way George maybe lost the most with the group's split, however happy he was to see it. In some ways it seems George was at his best when he was striving to impress brothers John and Paul. When left to his own devices, too often he really wasn't that interested. As he often said himself, he'd lost interest in being famous, and successful albums involved drawing attention to himself. Maybe that is why the albums he wanted to make, like Cloud 9 and the first Wilburys, worked so much better than the ones where he felt like he was on the treadmill.

George, like John in his last years, was happy watching the wheels go 'round and 'round, while pottering around the garden in Henley.

By the same token, I'd argue that John was at his best when striving to compete directly with Paul within the confines of the group… and thus absorbing a fair amount of inspiration from him.  a-hard-days-night-paul-4

meanmistermustard said George suffered the same problem as John, releasing music for the sake of releasing music as thats what he felt he was meant to do. And it produced the same results, half decent albums that sound like they were filled for the sake of it, making up the numbers. I rarely play a George album thru aside from All Things Must Past and Cloud Nine, the rest are selections or whatever comes up on random. The same can be said for John tho Plastic Ono Band is the only one i ever play thru there, i suppose DF and Milk and Honey could be included if it wasnt for the Yoko stuff.

 

I agree George sort of blew his load, so to speak, with All Things Must Pass.  But at the same time, I still consider it the best album any of them released outside of the group (the first 2 discs are strong enough for me to ignore the Apple Jam disc)… and one of the only ones that sounded as though it could've easily been put out by the group themselves (granted, many of its songs were written while the group was still together  a-hard-days-night-george-10).  Most of his other solo albums are hit-and-miss, but he definitely carved out a distinct sound for himself (though I think he overdid it on the slide guitar at times  ahdn_george_05), and Cloud Nine and Brainwashed are both solid albums (as is the first Wilburys album), and good ways to go out in terms of both career AND life.  I still need to familiarize myself more with his albums from Extra Texture (Read All About It) through Gone Troppo, but based on the strength of ATMP alone, I think his solo career just edges out John's.  I still often find myself frustrating underwhelmed with John's overly simple arrangements and rather same-y production values for each of his albums.  And I still think John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band is the most overrated solo Beatles work [runs away].

I'm rather surprised no one's mentioned any of Paul's more recent albums, as I think he's REALLY stepped up his game again over the last 15-20 years, and putting considerably fewer throwaway tunes on his albums than in the '70s and '80s.  I'd honestly rank Memory Almost Full right up there with Band on the Run.  I personally can't wait for his next album… and hope it's out before year's end (though that's starting to not look very likely  ahdn_paul_01).

So, the albums from each I'd most immediately recommend:

Paul: Ram, Band on the Run, Tug of War, Flaming Pie, Chaos and Creation in the Backyard, Memory Almost Full, Electric Arguments

George: All Things Must Pass; to a lesser extent, Cloud Nine and Brainwashed

John: Imagine, I guess, and perhaps Walls and Bridges ("Going Down on Love" remains one of my favorite solo tunes of his) and "Double Milk and Honey Fantasy" (a compilation of ONLY the John songs from those 2 albums  a-hard-days-night-john-1)

Ringo: Ringo and Goodnight Vienna are his only 2 albums worth owning in their entirety; the rest you can simply cherry-pick the singles/highlights from them.  ahdn_ringo_09

19 August 2013
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I agree with you on John. Concurrention is probably the best motivation to produce better material and outdo others. He has some very great songs, obviously, but a lot of them are very mediocre. What they did in their solo careers never matched up to what they were capable of as a group. And that's okay, because they weren't a group anymore.

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19 August 2013
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Linde said
Really? I always thought his music would be hard to find here as well, but recently I walked into a bookshop (that's the only store in my city which sells CDs. Sad but true. All the others have gone bankrupt) and one of the first albums I saw was All Things Must Pass. No others though. 

That's the main problem with trying to find CDs here as well, HMV closed down in Galway so I have no where near 1 1/2 hour of me that sells decent music. I'd have to go to Dublin (I hate Dublin) or Limerick (I'm never in Limerick) that's why I splurge on music whenever I go to Germany, I have 300 euro on me and an amazing Mueller store full of CDs/DVDs ahdn_george_06

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19 August 2013
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AppleScruffJunior said
Still searching for a copy of ATMP, think I'll have to get it off the internet for Christmas. George's music is ridiculously hard to find (in Ireland anyways) hell I went to Germany+Italy and couldn't find it in stores. I did find overpriced copies of Dark Horse, Somewhere in England and The Early Takes part 1 for €18 each though

 

Is there none on ebay? When I bought my copy about a year or so ago, there were quite a few on there, of varying quality. They're extremely expensive for the condition that the covers were mostly in though, expect to pay the equivalent of £45 + for a half-decent copy.

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19 August 2013
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I feel you AppleScruffs.  I'm a couple months into my search for ATMP and having no luck as well. However, when it does show up it will be that much sweeter.

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19 August 2013
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Duke_of_Kirkaldy said
I'm rather surprised no one's mentioned any of Paul's more recent albums, as I think he's REALLY stepped up his game again over the last 15-20 years, and putting considerably fewer throwaway tunes on his albums than in the '70s and '80s.  I'd honestly rank Memory Almost Full right up there with Band on the Run.  I personally can't wait for his next album… and hope it's out before year's end (though that's starting to not look very likely  ahdn_paul_01).

Agreed that Paul stepped up his game starting with Flaming Pie -- starting with Flowers, actually, after the crap trifecta of PoP, Broadstreet, and PtoP. The thing for me is that, even though I like much/most of the songs on FitDFP, MAF, and (to a lesser extent) Chaos, I don't think those songs are heard to best advantage within the album context. Even BOTR is like that for me; I love a lot of the songs, but I like them best taken out and mixed into my Macca playlists. However, RAM, McC II, and Electric Arguments hang together wonderfully as albums and (almost) every song benefits from being heard as part of the whole. 

Also, I forgot a couple tracks in my George suggestions -- "Marwa Blues" and "Rocking Chair in Hawaii." I make these two the bread around a "Devil and the Deep Blue Sea" sandwich. :)

20 August 2013
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Duke_of_Kirkaldy said

I'm rather surprised no one's mentioned any of Paul's more recent albums, as I think he's REALLY stepped up his game again over the last 15-20 years, and putting considerably fewer throwaway tunes on his albums than in the '70s and '80s.  I'd honestly rank Memory Almost Full right up there with Band on the Run

MAF is not a popular album with the active posters on this board, as some consider it a poor follow-up to Chaos. I don't agree, and I like both albums equally, but that's why that one wouldn't get mentioned.

I personally can't wait for his next album… and hope it's out before year's end (though that's starting to not look very likely  ahdn_paul_01).

I don't know, with the recent buzz, it sounds like it might out in time for Christmas.

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20 August 2013
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Indeed, as one critic once said, the only truly fallow period of Paul's career was 1983-88*.  *I'm not as hard on the Broad Street soundtrack as most, though; after all, there are only 3 new songs on it, while the rest are mostly pleasant, if unremarkable, remakes of previous songs, most of which are from his Beatles days (the one offensive one likely being the cocktail lounge reworking of "The Long And Winding Roada-hard-days-night-paul-3).  And while I don't consider Flowers in the Dirt as much of a career renaissance as most (it still sounds very late-'80s in some parts), it was at least a step back in the right direction, which continued further with Off the Ground and completely manifested itself with Flaming Pie (which, coincidentally, was also his most Beatle-esque-sounding album since Ram, IMO  a-hard-days-night-paul-5).

20 August 2013
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Duke_of_Kirkaldy said
Indeed, as one critic once said, the only truly fallow period of Paul's career was 1983-88*.  *I'm not as hard on the Broad Street soundtrack as most, though; after all, there are only 3 new songs on it, while the rest are mostly pleasant, if unremarkable, remakes of previous songs, most of which are from his Beatles days (the one offensive one likely being the cocktail lounge reworking of "The Long And Winding Roada-hard-days-night-paul-3).  And while I don't consider Flowers in the Dirt as much of a career renaissance as most (it still sounds very late-'80s in some parts), it was at least a step back in the right direction, which continued further with Off the Ground and completely manifested itself with Flaming Pie (which, coincidentally, was also his most Beatle-esque-sounding album since Ram, IMO  a-hard-days-night-paul-5).

Flaming Pie is probably my personal favorite Paul album outside of McCartney II. Never thought of it in the same context as Ram, but I can see it; "Calico Skies" would fit in with either Ram or McCartney.

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20 August 2013
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I found a copy of ATMP (on vinyl) in Adams TN, which has a population of about 600 people, and I was ecstatic. Its really not hard to find Beatle/Post albums in my area, i feel like people dont want them.

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There is usually a George cd section in Zavvi or whatever the heck its called nowadays but its usually ATMP, Let It Roll, and the tribute concert for George, once in a while it gets added to with one or two others.

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