Beatles Bootleg Recordings 1963 | Fab Forum

Introducing the inaugural Fab Forum February Fundraiser! Click here for more details.

Please consider registering
Guest

sp_LogInOut Log In sp_Registration Register

Register | Lost password?
Advanced Search

— Forum Scope —






— Match —





— Forum Options —





Minimum search word length is 4 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters

sp_Feed sp_TopicIcon
Beatles Bootleg Recordings 1963
No permission to create posts
13 December 2013
5.03pm
Avatar
meanmistermustard
Moderator



Forum Posts: 17110
Member Since:
1 May 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Wogblog posted an article on the possible upcoming release of 'The Beatles Bootleg Recordings 1963 - Official Release along with a follow up article on the copyright aspect of it all. Examiner also posted about this as well as how the Beach Boys are also said to be following suit as are other artists. Additionally an NME article mja found on this which uses a Beatles spokesman as the source for its information.

Release date is said to be Tuesday 17th December. Nothing official has been forthcoming at the time of posting.

 

Tracklisting

1. There's A Place - Takes 5, 6 (2:19)
2. There's A Place - Take 8 (1:58)
3. There's A Place - Take 9 (2:04)
4. Do You Want To Known A Secret - Track 2, Take 7 (2:17)
5. A Taste Of Honey - Track 2, Take 6 (2:12)
6. I Saw Her Standing There - Take 2 (3:07)
7. Misery - Take 1 (1:54)
8. Misery - Take 7 (1:56)
9. From Me To You - Take 1 & 2 (3:24)
10. From Me To You - Take 5 (2:17)
11. Thank You Girl - Take 1 (2:09)
12. Thank You Girl - Take 5 (2:04)
13. One After 909 - Take 1 & 2  (4:29)
14. Hold Me Tight - Take 21 (2:42)
15. Money (That's What I Want) - RM 7 Undubbed (2:48)
16. Some Other Guy - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 26th January, 1963 (2:02)
17. Love Me Do - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 26th January, 1963 (2:31)
18. Too Much Monkey Business - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 26th January, 1963 (1:50)
19. I Saw Her Standing There - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 16th March, 1963 (2:38)
20. Do You Want To Know A Secret - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 26th January, 1963  (1:50)
21. From Me To You - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 26th January, 1963 (1:54)
22. I Got To Find My Baby - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 26th January, 1963 (1:59)
23. Roll Over Beethoven - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 29th June, 1963 (2:29)
24. A Taste Of Honey - Live At BBC For "Easy Beat" / 23rd June, 1963 (2:01)
25. Love Me Do - Live At BBC For "Easy Beat" / 20th October, 1963 (2:29)
26. Please Please Me - Live At BBC For "Easy Beat" / 20th October, 1963 (2:08)
27. She Loves You - Live At BBC For "Easy Beat" / 20th October, 1963 (2:29)
28. I Want To Hold Your Hand - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 21st December, 1963 (2:19)
29. Till There Was You - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 21st December, 1963 (2:16)
30. Roll Over Beethoveen - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 21st December, 1963 (2:16)
31. You Really Got A Hold On Me - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 4th June, 1963 (2:54)
32. The Hippy Hippy Shake - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 4th June, 1963 (1:43)
33. Till There Was You - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" /11th June, 1963 (2:14)
34. A Shot Of Rhythm And Blues - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 18th June, 1963 (2:06)
35. A Taste Of Honey - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 18th June, 1963 (1:56)
36. Money (That's What I Want) - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 18th June, 1963 (2:41)
37. Anna - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 25th June, 1963 (3:02)
38. Love Me Do - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 10th September, 1963 (2:29)
39. She Loves You - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 24th September, 1963 (2:16)
40. I'll Get You - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 10th September, 1963 (2:05)
41. A Taste Of Honey - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 10th September, 1963 (2:00)
42. Boys - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 17th September, 1963 (2:12)
43. Chains - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 17th September, 1963 (2:22)
44. You Really Got A Hold On Me - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 17th September, 1963 (2:57)
45. I Saw Her Standing There - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 24th September, 1963 (2:41)
46. She Loves You - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 10th September, 1963 (2:15)
47. Twist And Shout - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 24th September, 1963 (2:36)
48. Do You Want To Know A Secret - Live At BBC For "Here We Go" / 12th March, 1963 (1:55)
49. Please Please Me - Live At BBC For "Here We Go" / 12th March, 1963 (1:57)
50. Long Tall Sally - Live At BBC For "Side By Side" / 13th May, 1963 (1:49)
51. Chains - Live At BBC For "Side By Side" / 13th May, 1963 (2:23)
52. Boys - Live At BBC For "Side By Side" / 13th May, 1963 (1:53)
53. A Taste Of Honey - Live At BBC For "Side By Side" / 13th May, 1963 (2:04)
54. Roll Over Beethoven - Live At BBC For "From Us To You" / 26th December, 1963 (2:17)
55. All My Loving - Live At BBC For "From Us To You" / 26th December, 1963 (2:06)
56. She Loves You - Live At BBC For "From Us To You" / 26th December, 1963 (2:21)
57. Till There Was You - Live At BBC For "From Us To You" / 26th December, 1963 (2:12)
58. Bad To Me - Demo (1:29)
59. I'm In Love - Demo (1:32)

Don’t make your love suffer insecurities, trade the baggage of self to set another one free. ('Paper Skin' - Kendall Payne)
13 December 2013
7.15pm
Avatar
Ron Nasty
"Where have you been?" "I'm not telling you..."
Apple rooftop
Forum Posts: 4917
Member Since:
17 December 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

The BBC are also reporting this, and saying no official confirmation, but also citing confirmation from an Apple spokesperson.

"I only said we were bigger than Rod... and now there's all this!" Ron Nasty

13 December 2013
7.24pm
Avatar
meanmistermustard
Moderator



Forum Posts: 17110
Member Since:
1 May 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

mja6758 said
The
BBC are also reporting this, and saying no official confirmation, but also citing confirmation from an Apple spokesperson.

Word is beginning to get out and about. 

Strange that everyone knows about it but Apple are keeping schtum officially. 

Don’t make your love suffer insecurities, trade the baggage of self to set another one free. ('Paper Skin' - Kendall Payne)
13 December 2013
11.17pm
Avatar
Ron Nasty
"Where have you been?" "I'm not telling you..."
Apple rooftop
Forum Posts: 4917
Member Since:
17 December 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Not entirely true. Were they to include, for instance, the raw studio tape of breakdown take 2 of Twist And Shout on some future release, they could not claim copyright. However, they would not do that. It would go through some mixing/remastering process, and the copyright would be claimed on that.

"I only said we were bigger than Rod... and now there's all this!" Ron Nasty

13 December 2013
11.52pm
Avatar
Ron Nasty
"Where have you been?" "I'm not telling you..."
Apple rooftop
Forum Posts: 4917
Member Since:
17 December 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Everything, including the remasters, only gets an additional 20 years. So, for example, the 1963 recordings are protected up until 2033. My example of take 2 of Twist And Shout, I used that as something that hasn't seen the light of day. Were anyone to get hold of the raw tape then, after 11 February 2014, they could do what they wanted to with it. Any official release of it, no matter when released, would establish copyright on that "production".

Another mistake that is being made is 31 December being a hard cut-off. It is a gradual unfolding. The copyright on something recorded on the 11 February 1963 does not run out at the same time as their finishing touches to With The Beatles on 23 October 1963. Though, obviously, it is easier to handle a year at a time. But this could indicate a further 1963 volume, as most of the missing bootlegged material comes from the second half of the year.

The interesting one is the Yellow Submarine Songtrack which they actually remixed. I would guess that those mixes have 70 years from date of release.

"I only said we were bigger than Rod... and now there's all this!" Ron Nasty

14 December 2013
1.04am
Avatar
Ron Nasty
"Where have you been?" "I'm not telling you..."
Apple rooftop
Forum Posts: 4917
Member Since:
17 December 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

At its most basic, it's like protecting a photograph. How you first print that photograph is protected from the day you do it. Come back to that print years later and clean (remaster) it, and it's still the same photograph. Go back to the negative (Yellow Submarine Songtrack) and decide to print a version using a yellow filter (remix), you've created a new print and can claim protection on that print.

"I only said we were bigger than Rod... and now there's all this!" Ron Nasty

14 December 2013
5.27pm
Avatar
Ron Nasty
"Where have you been?" "I'm not telling you..."
Apple rooftop
Forum Posts: 4917
Member Since:
17 December 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

trcanberra said
So, do we still have our discussion about CDs and .mp3s or has that been lost in the reconstruction of history?

Afraid that's lost to the "timey whimey" thing!

The Guardian reports on the bootleg release.

Good old Roger has certainly been making Beatles headlines in recent months. Led the way with On Air, and now there's this!

"I only said we were bigger than Rod... and now there's all this!" Ron Nasty

14 December 2013
5.43pm
Avatar
IveJustSeenAFaceo
Arrived Somewhere (But Not Here)
Apple rooftop
Forum Posts: 2847
Member Since:
31 October 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

mja6758 said

trcanberra said
So, do we still have our discussion about CDs and .mp3s or has that been lost in the reconstruction of history?

Afraid that's lost to the "timey whimey" thing!

The Guardian reports on the bootleg release.

Good old Roger has certainly been making Beatles headlines in recent months. Led the way with On Air, and now there's this!

Can't go wrong with a good Doctor Who reference!

(This signature brought to you by Spaghetti Tuesdays. Occurring on Wednesdays since 2013.)

16 December 2013
4.29pm
Avatar
meanmistermustard
Moderator



Forum Posts: 17110
Member Since:
1 May 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

It's up and coming and, if you are in New Zealand it's came already; The Beatles Bootleg Recordings 1963 will be here and there are upgrades. Wogblog writes 

From our readers over there we have so far got these comments: "Saturday Club Jan 26 Some Other Guy is an upgrade, Love Me Do is complete and an upgrade. A Taste Of HoneyMisery and Do You Want To Know A Secret outtakes are in STEREO! Money is undubbed. Bad To Me sounds much cleaner!"

 

There is nothing yet on the UK iTunes so i presume its just going to appear at some point on the day of release.

Examiner has also posted an article on the album becoming available in some countries around the world including Indonesia and Japan.

Don’t make your love suffer insecurities, trade the baggage of self to set another one free. ('Paper Skin' - Kendall Payne)
16 December 2013
5.11pm
Avatar
Ron Nasty
"Where have you been?" "I'm not telling you..."
Apple rooftop
Forum Posts: 4917
Member Since:
17 December 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

"I only said we were bigger than Rod... and now there's all this!" Ron Nasty

No permission to create posts
Forum Timezone: America/Chicago

Most Users Ever Online: 597

Currently Online: AppleScruffJunior, Annadog40, georgiewood, Silly Girl
41 Guest(s)

Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)

Top Posters:

meanmistermustard: 17110

Ahhh Girl: 10708

Annadog40: 9656

Zig: 7531

parlance: 7092

mr. Sun king coming together: 6980

Mr. Kite: 6092

Silly Girl: 5690

trcanberra: 5522

Ron Nasty: 4916

Member Stats:

Guest Posters: 87

Members: 3327

Moderators: 4

Admins: 2

Forum Stats:

Groups: 3

Forums: 42

Topics: 3813

Posts: 201536

Newest Members:

ttn48griff, Beatles007, Edwardo, deandawes, RB

Moderators: Ahhh Girl: 10708, meanmistermustard: 17110, Zig: 7531, Joe: 4389

Administrators: Joe: 4389, Ellie: 3

Members Birthdays
sp_BirthdayIcon
Today: None
Upcoming: VeraChuckDave