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Yep, I agree completely. I think they were written by Kevin Howlett, a BBC radio producer who knows his stuff, but he chose to mention one of the least interesting aspect of The Beatles' recording techniques.

Bouncing down/reduction mixes were perhaps worth a mention on Sgt Pepper, but for the rest there's a whole load of other stuff to be discusses. They should have asked me to do it a-hard-days-night-george-10

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Yeah, those remasters were disappointing in a number of ways. To read the "Let It Be" notes and not see any mention at all about the tensions and miseries involved in its recording feels dishonest in some way. And would it have been SO difficult to include session details - recording dates, instrumentation, all those juicy details that Joe worked so hard to post on this very site?

[Plus I hate having to slide the discs themselves out of a cardboard sleeve, what the hell is that?! A good way to get 'em prematurely scratched, that's what it is. Far, far inferior to the plastic ones with the lock-on thing in the centre, if you ask me. If Apple's rationale behind that decision was to replicate the experience of sliding vinyl discs out of record sleeves, well, thanks but no thanks. And if they did it merely to save money, then "Screw you, you cheap bastards!" That nonsense is way-unworthy of history's greatest band.]

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paulsbass said:

Not sure if this has already been discussed, but after looking through some of the remasters I've GOT to express my disappointment with the liner notes!

I mean even Mark Lewinsons short comments on the Past Masters tracks are more informative and entertaining in contrast to these dull reports, how The Beatles used their four track recording device. And the process of "bouncing down" several tracks to one to create new space is described in at least five (!!) "recording notes"!! (Help, Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt. Peppers, White Album) Can you imagine that?? Especially Revolver, one of the most remarkable recordings ever, and they give up a whole paragraph to the same thing they had described before TWICE!

And on the "White Album" the describe the whole process AGAIN, because then they did NOT need it anymore!!


And the "Historical notes" on "Sgt. Peppers" mainly describe their frustration with playing live - I think it would have been much more appropriate to acknowledge the "historical" dimensions of this album!!


All in all "Historical" and "Recording notes" on all albums totally lack enthusiasm, emotion and depths.

Big missed chance.george-martin

Anyone agrees with that?

I agree the recording and historical notes could have been better. But as far as the true liner notes, I believe they are the originals (written by Barrow or whoever the Press Officer du jour was at the time), no?

Also, in fairness, the packaging was designed for individual sale not just box sets. The "powers that be" have no guarantee the consumer would read about the bouncing down that many times if said consumer only bought one of the discs. I do know what you are saying though, pb - I stopped reading them after AHDN.

Personally, I like the packaging but do agree that chances were missed. Or, we could just go with Von and say "Screw you, you cheap bastards!" That made me laugh.

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Joe said:

They should have asked me to do it. 

That would have been awesome.

I like the cartoon for Magical Mystery Tour

I think my favorite notes are the original liner notes for Beatles For Sale. They crack me up every time-- especially the bit about the radioactive cigar-smoking child vacationing on Saturn! 

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I don't have a hard copy of these, but I do have scans of all the notes, and I've only read through Please Please Me at this point and I found them fairly interesting. Nothing we BBers didn't already know, but if I was a casual fan I'd be interested. 

Oh, and the beginning here doesn't make sense at first because of paulsbass. Thanks for quoting it, Zig!

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